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[rzk]

villain is probably a decent tag. i don't have any history with him but his stats are 30/20/2.5/37/907. should i call this river as a default?

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9.25BB

[NinaWilliams]

If you dont know what to do on the river, you should be checking the turn.

[rzk]

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If you dont know what to do on the river, you should be checking the turn.

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i often see this idea stated in various forms and i couldn't disagree more. me not knowing what to do on the river simply means that i estimate the EV of calling to be almost equal to the EV of folding. this fact has nothing to do with whether i should be betting the turn where i'm a decent equity favorite against his estimated range.

[sharpie]

Checking behind is good when he has no club or has a made hand. I'd expect him to fastplay any flopped made hand, so we're looking at 9x pretty much.

Betting is good when he has a club that wouldn't bluff the river or will put in a bluff check/raise or has a hand like Ax with a club that might call 2 more bets. I also think betting is good for future hands, since if you're like me you have alot of weak showdownable hands when you check behind turns.

I can see merits to both checking behind and betting the turn, as played I'd call the river I think you'll see a busted club often enough.

[milesdyson]

IMO i see more merit to 3betting that turn than chekcing turnnnn

[Robin Foolz]

your turn bet/call line is perfect against a variety of villains that can't help but bluff here. i instacall river.