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Old 10-03-2007, 02:32 PM
re84uk re84uk is offline
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Default AKo on STT Bubble

Single table tournament - 4 handed on the bubble - 3 places pay 50/30/20%.

Blinds are 100/200.

Stacks after posting blinds:

CO: 1070
Hero(BTN): 2530
SB: 6225
BB: 3375

Reads: SB is a very experienced and good STT player.

CO folds, Hero(BTN) ...?

Do you...
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: AKo on STT Bubble

Since he's a good player he will probably 3bet you allin with a lot of hands you dominate so i like the raise to 600 to entice him into pushing a weaker hand.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: AKo on STT Bubble

I would just shove.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: AKo on STT Bubble

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Since he's a good player he will probably 3bet you allin with a lot of hands you dominate so i like the raise to 600 to entice him into pushing a weaker hand.

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He might also push low pairs assuming you have to fold loads of hands with shortie around.
I like an openpush too.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: AKo on STT Bubble

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Since he's a good player he will probably 3bet you allin with a lot of hands you dominate so i like the raise to 600 to entice him into pushing a weaker hand.

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nope u really dont want chips going into middle with showdown shove
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: AKo on STT Bubble

Well, you could wind up with the chip lead "if" everything worked out. SB & particularly BB won't call or raise w/o good solid hands. I like the 600 bet as bait, if you are ready to push if you get re-raised. If you are not ready to push, just fold. This isn't the right time for a fight with the wrong opponents. I'm new to STT's so please correct me if my thinking is off base.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: AKo on STT Bubble

I think this is a no-brainer push given the read. If you raise and get shoved on you have to fold against just about any opponent (unless you have a good reason to spite call). Against people who will tell you the strength of their hand by their betting patterns (shove means you're beat) you want to be able to standard raise when you have more than 10 BB so you can pick up pots without risking everything. If you have that kind of situation, raising instead of shoving may be a good way to balance your play.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: AKo on STT Bubble

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Well, you could wind up with the chip lead "if" everything worked out. SB & particularly BB won't call or raise w/o good solid hands. I like the 600 bet as bait, if you are ready to push if you get re-raised. If you are not ready to push, just fold. This isn't the right time for a fight with the wrong opponents. I'm new to STT's so please correct me if my thinking is off base.

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You raise or shove because you want to pick up the pot. Period. Getting reraised or called in this spot is kind of a disaster scenario because of the ICM situation created by you having a decent stack in 3rd and risking busting out with a 5bb stack in 4th. If you are in the BB with that stack and either of the two larger stacks shoved on you have to fold AK (even if you were suited) if they were raising 100% of the time. With 600 extra in the pot, calling a shove with AKo is less costly but that is balanced by the fact that you can't put the shover on any two cards.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: AKo on STT Bubble

i want the blinds to be a little bigger, but i'd probably shove as well... i understand the raise to 600 line, but what if you get shoved all-in, then what? minimize the thinking, just shove.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: AKo on STT Bubble

ok.

If you are going to open push, what range of hands do you think the sb and bb will call you with?

If you standard raise, what range of hands do you think come over the top of you?
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