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Old 10-02-2007, 06:10 PM
tessek07 tessek07 is offline
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Default A few hands I thought were worthy of discussion.

PokerStars $6.00+$0.60 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) -
Table '62886248 1' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: deflo87 (1220 in chips)
Seat 2: Rollocoaster (1550 in chips)
Seat 3: Mb961 (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: tessek07 (1800 in chips)
Seat 5: hannes68 (1560 in chips)
Seat 6: BobbyC1 (1400 in chips)
Dealt to tessek07 [Jd 2d]
tessek07: calls 20
hannes68: calls 20
BobbyC1: calls 20
deflo87: calls 20
Rollocoaster: calls 10
Mb961: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd Jh 2c]
Rollocoaster: checks
Mb961: checks
tessek07: checks
hannes68: checks
BobbyC1: checks
deflo87: checks
*** TURN *** [Kd Jh 2c] [Ad]
Rollocoaster: checks
Mb961: checks
tessek07: bets 400
hannes68: folds
BobbyC1: folds
deflo87: calls 400
Rollocoaster: folds
Mb961: folds
*** RIVER *** [Kd Jh 2c Ad] [3s]
tessek07: bets 400
deflo87: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tessek07: shows [Jd 2d] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)
deflo87: shows [Ac Js] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
deflo87 collected 1720 from pot

On this hand: Do you push with 2 pair on the flop( not top two pair)with a straight or flush draw on the board or raise the pot not on the turn (as i did) but on the flop. How do you play these hands short handed?

PokerStars $6.00+$0.60 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/10/02 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Tarzoon12345 (1020 in chips)
Seat 2: 420Bake420 (2030 in chips)
Seat 3: DrKuzma (1900 in chips)
Seat 4: lal66 (1100 in chips)
Seat 5: tessek07 (1400 in chips)
Seat 6: vandy_jack (1550 in chips)
420Bake420: posts small blind 10
DrKuzma: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tessek07 [As Ks]
lal66: folds
tessek07: calls 20
vandy_jack: folds
Tarzoon12345: folds
420Bake420: calls 10
DrKuzma: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ad 9s 5h]
420Bake420: checks
DrKuzma: checks
tessek07: checks
*** TURN *** [Ad 9s 5h] [Jc]
420Bake420: checks
DrKuzma: checks
tessek07: bets 80
420Bake420: folds
DrKuzma: raises 180 to 260
tessek07: raises 1120 to 1380 and is all-in
DrKuzma: calls 1120
*** RIVER *** [Ad 9s 5h Jc] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DrKuzma: shows [9h Ac] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
tessek07: shows [As Ks] (a pair of Aces)
DrKuzma collected 2820 from pot

On this hand: Should I have called his raise on the turn. And if he puts me all in ,I fold on the river I guess. What if he raises the same amount as the turn leaving me with about 700 chips if I call and lose?

Ok last one!

PokerStars Game #12388989177: Level I (10/20) - 2007/10/02
Table '62873127 1' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: EZETOC (1630 in chips)
Seat 2: retsul (1800 in chips)
Seat 3: XerBam (1350 in chips)
Seat 4: steviereno69 (1140 in chips)
Seat 5: wspteam (1650 in chips)
Seat 6: tessek07 (1430 in chips)
wspteam: posts small blind 10
tessek07: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tessek07 [4s 8d]
EZETOC: folds
retsul: calls 20
XerBam: folds
steviereno69: calls 20
wspteam: calls 10
tessek07: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d 8c 8h]
wspteam: checks
tessek07: checks
retsul: checks
steviereno69: checks
*** TURN *** [9d 8c 8h] [7c]
wspteam: checks
tessek07: bets 80
retsul: calls 80
steviereno69: folds
wspteam: folds
*** RIVER *** [9d 8c 8h 7c] [Js]
tessek07: bets 140
retsul: raises 140 to 280
tessek07: folds
retsul collected 520 from pot

Should I fold here? Minimum raise seemed suspicious. I busted out the next hand thinking of this one

Thanks for reading these. I hope they were descent enough to post.
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:08 PM
BradleyT BradleyT is offline
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Default Re: A few hands I thought were worthy of discussion.

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Dealt to tessek07 [Jd 2d]
tessek07: calls 20

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LOL

Edit -

OK actually looked at the hands for real now.

You seem to have a habit of not betting your hands when you're ahead and aggressively betting them when you're behind - reverse that around.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:20 AM
Jauron Jauron is offline
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Default Re: A few hands I thought were worthy of discussion.

I'd advise you to refuse to slow play any hand for a few weeks or months, learn how to extract money without doing it. Once you do that, you can start to consider slow playing again. I am not sure you understand WHY you slowplay or why you do not.

Multiway limp pots are not the time to slow play bottom 2, top pair or trips with no kicker against random villains.

First hand, get something in on that flop, anything. I don't care if you push (silly IMO but at least you are putting money in the pot) bottom two + slowplaying in multipot is a great way to go broke.

2nd- I don't get limping with AK, checking the flop when you hit and then pushing the instant someone shows an interest in the pot. Is everyone slow playing AQ?

3- Treat trips (not sets) like TPTK when it comes to betting. in other words until/if you fill up don't slow play it in this spot.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:24 AM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Default Re: A few hands I thought were worthy of discussion.

Last hand is the only interesting one.
Hand 1 fold preflop. bet flop.
Don't bet 400 on turn.
I guess shove river once you get there.

Hand 2 raise preflop.
Bet flop.
Call turn c/r.
Probably bet flop in hand 3.
Turn is fine as played
Barf and call river hand 4.
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:39 AM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: A few hands I thought were worthy of discussion.

Hand one fold pf.

As played pot the flop the overbet is ridiculous. As played shove turn?

Hand 2 raise to 60 or 80 pf, as played checking the flop in position is terrible, please bet 2/3 pot

As played turn bet is ok, but you can bet more here when you raise pre and follow throuh on the flop, as played shove over the r aise can be paying off so many hands that got to hit 2 pair for free on flop and turn

Hand 3: Bet the flop, as played you have to call the river but i would be check/calling there
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:24 PM
tessek07 tessek07 is offline
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Default Re: A few hands I thought were worthy of discussion.

Thank you all for the responses so far. You all had good advice. After reading a few of your posts I came up with this.


Hand one: I think betting the pot on the flop is right as you all say. On the turn Maybe just push with my two pair. Rather than wait till river.

Hand two: Definitly PF raise to 100 as you all mentioned. On the flop bet 2/3 or even the pot. Another 200 or so bet on the turn should give me a real idea about what he has. Check/Raise river.

Hand 3: Consensus is call the river.
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