blind defense

JerBear77 · #1 10-03-2007, 08:34 AM

No reads on villian but thought this flop is dry enough to play this way.....

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero raises, MP calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP calls.

River: (6.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Oink · #2 10-03-2007, 08:41 AM

This is by definition not a blind defense. Villain raises in MP which makes his range much stronger.

If you think you can make him fold A high your flop play is ok. However this is not a board where people fold A high so IMO its spew.

When he calls the turn your hand is loosing. You can only win the pot by betting, but he is not folding a better hand enough for you to try that. River is an easy check/fold IMO

I would not play this hand like you. I would just peel the flop with my backdoor fd and with a good chance of seing a free river. As I said people arent folding better hands on the board very often. Your raise is just too suspicious. But they do check behind A high quite often because they dont want to get c/r'ed

After I peeled the flop I am prolly peeling 1 more. Getting 5.5:1 with what is sometimes gonna see a free SD with the best hand and with 6 good outs + 3 chop outs I think its a peel. Albeit a close one.

Just c/f'ing the flop is not a big mistake tho and I think you can do this in low limit games where people dont raise much preflop.

mvoss · #3 10-03-2007, 08:41 AM

I think this is a fold preflop.

I would never play this way postflop without a read, you have K-high no draw and you're putting a lot of bets into a very small pot OOP. This is about as [censored] a spot as you can put yourself in.

jessie · #4 10-03-2007, 09:05 AM

I fold pf. As played, I don't mind the flop & turn, but would just c/f river. There's not much he raised pf then is willing to bet river with that you beat.

goebbelboy · #5 10-03-2007, 09:14 AM

You're nearing the -1bb line with a river call on a Q river.

gehrig · #6 10-03-2007, 09:15 AM

jerbear77 what do u think villain's range of hands is when he bets the river

thepizzlefosho · #7 10-03-2007, 09:26 AM

depending on villain call or fold preflop.

just peel the flop, and fold the turn if he bets again. If you do take your line (which I wouldn't) just check/fold the river. If you are going to put a bet in on the river at least b/f so you have a chance to win the pot by bluffing out better hands.

Absolution · #8 10-03-2007, 09:49 AM

Pre-flop: Fold. Why are you cold calling in the SB with junk?

Flop/Turn: I have no problem with this.

River: Fold.

Oink · #9 10-03-2007, 10:08 AM

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Pre-flop: Fold. Why are you cold calling in the SB with junk?

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Wow yeah! I completely missed that preflop was from SB. Thats a terrible call!

thepizzlefosho · #10 10-03-2007, 10:24 AM

yeah, I also didn't see that. pf is 100% fold. the rest of the hand plays much easier if you just do that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]