1/2 ugly river, but i shove anyways

BT2 · #1 10-03-2007, 01:55 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($41.45)
MP2 ($95.75)
MP3 ($228.15)
CO ($27)
Button ($200)
Hero ($248)
BB ($615.80)
UTG ($231.25)
UTG+1 ($47.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $26, 1 fold, MP3 calls $18.

Flop: ($54) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $38, MP3 calls $38.

Turn: ($130) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $74, MP3 calls $74.

River: ($278) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $110 (All-In)

villain is 20/8/2.3 no real reads

bottomset · #2 10-03-2007, 02:09 AM

hmmn dont think he is calling with QQ/JJ/TT

don't see how he can really have any bluff type hands in his range, so I think I c/f, though Im not happy about it

rdrr · #3 10-03-2007, 02:27 AM

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] villain only has $90 left on the river, seriously c/f? What Ax hands is he calling those bets with? It's either TT-QQ, or you've been beat all along by 44 or AA, which he'd probably shove turn with anyway. Why can't this be QQ/JJ/TT enough of the time to just shove the last $90 in?

five4suited · #4 10-03-2007, 02:44 AM

since villain hasn't put him on a hand that he should fold to, assuming he doesn't think you double-barreled w/AK, doesn't the A make a call by QQ or JJ more likely? Also, he can't fold KK if you don't bet. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

bmanning · #5 10-03-2007, 04:09 AM

Isn't the river ace a blank for villain??? Did he really float you twice with ak aq????

i push river for value every time.

uminchu · #6 10-03-2007, 06:15 AM

wouldnt check calling for value be best here, especially if he never calls QQ JJ TT but does bet them when checked too, that way we still lose to any ace he got there with (unlikely) but we also make more from bluffs that would have folded getting 4 to one on the river

seki · #7 10-03-2007, 12:29 PM

I think a villain calls a river bet with TT-QQ more often than he bets if checked to given the action. I like the push.

Renton · #8 10-03-2007, 12:33 PM

maybe results oriented, but 28 preflop and bet a little more on the flop, so the pot will be aligned on the turn for a bluffy looking shove.

bottomset · #9 10-03-2007, 12:44 PM

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maybe results oriented, but 28 preflop and bet a little more on the flop, so the pot will be aligned on the turn for a bluffy looking shove.

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28, 45, leaves around a potsized shove, so I like that

warrantofice · #10 10-03-2007, 01:00 PM

What about a river bet of 50 or so. QQ-TT have to call, and if he pushes your getting so amazing odds there's nothing to do but call.

(i think he had 10,9 soootted)