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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
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Hactually, spoke about this with another poster and we both like open shove. [/ QUOTE ] this would be an ok line but OP said no history so idont see a call from KK |
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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
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Hactually, spoke about this with another poster and we both like open shove. [/ QUOTE ] Yuck. |
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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
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[ QUOTE ] Hactually, spoke about this with another poster and we both like open shove. [/ QUOTE ] Yuck. [/ QUOTE ] why? pot is $244, stacks are ~$300, shove looks wayy bluffier than $100 or whatever. pudge is very aggro, but most of his range is just wanting to get to showdown imo, he'll check behind flop a lot of the time i think. |
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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
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[ QUOTE ] Hactually, spoke about this with another poster and we both like open shove. [/ QUOTE ] Yuck. [/ QUOTE ] Yuck because its so grossly sexy? |
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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
i like shove too
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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
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shove looks wayy bluffier than $100 or whatever [/ QUOTE ] no |
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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
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[ QUOTE ] shove looks wayy bluffier than $100 or whatever [/ QUOTE ] no [/ QUOTE ] depends... |
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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
If he played this hand today I honestly have no idea what I had that can't be a good sign. Edit: NVM remember now. Won't results for a bit.
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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hactually, spoke about this with another poster and we both like open shove. [/ QUOTE ] Yuck. [/ QUOTE ] why? pot is $244, stacks are ~$300, shove looks wayy bluffier than $100 or whatever. pudge is very aggro, but most of his range is just wanting to get to showdown imo, he'll check behind flop a lot of the time i think. [/ QUOTE ] Well you obviously know villain (i do not). But with most opponents, if they are willing to stack off w/ JJ or something, they'd just shove over our 4-bet pf. Doesn't make too much sense to flat a 4-bet, wait for an A-high flop, and then call an open-shove... but hey, maybe thats b/c i'm a rational thinker, and some villains are not. It all boils down to his 4-bet calling range. Personally, based on the guy's VPIP, and the fact that the 4-bet was practically a mini-bet, I put him on a MUCH wider range than biggish PPs. As such, i'd rather let him bluff, then open shove. Nor am I convinced that this looks "so bluffy" ("omg, he open-shoved!") that he'll look you up w/ KK. |
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Re: 4bet bluff vs 2p2er flops top pair
also - why is him checking behind on the flop such a bad thing? you still have 2 streets to try and extract value.
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