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Old 10-02-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: 1/2, QQ vs aggro player on scary board

AK/AQ I think is in his range some percentage of the time. Maybe he only plays them this way 50% of the time. I think that makes the call that much closer. Since your flop check looks kinda trappy he could be checking the flop with a lot of his range, imo.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: 1/2, QQ vs aggro player on scary board

I think KhTh plays it fast. I think AQo dumps on the turn. I think you may get floated by AKo or AKs because of the flop check, turn bet. What is his fold to CB%? KhJh could also play this way and I think it's in villains range.

I think just heart draws are way less likely to bet out on the flop or turn because they don't want to get pushed off their draws by a CR that is always a danger in a reraised preflop pot.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: 1/2, QQ vs aggro player on scary board

I hate the flop line, but I'm small time, so I'm interested in how this is a +EV play.

Call the river, you've shown weakness the whole way and a river push is just overkill, unless your opponent thinks that you would think that, then you have to fold.

He doesn't have a bigger pair, AK for the flush is out, I'd just have to call here.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 1/2, QQ vs aggro player on scary board

I think this guy knows that I'm aggro enough that if he gets pushed on the flop he also has K as an over so he might as well play those fast too.

I think pretty much everyone is agreeing with me here that you gotta fold it some, but it is also very callable because he plays most hands that make any sense different. Lesson of the day: If the line makes no sense for almost all of his range, then look him up a % of the time???? I think that makes sense.

POKERSTARS GAME #12381369670: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/10/01 - 17:40:15 (ET)
Table 'Chimaera II' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
ollynorth: posts small blind $1
Schwallie4: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Schwallie4 [Qd Qc]
ryanj9352: folds
lionel876: raises $6 to $8
pokerfrau: folds
fiyacht: folds
ToddDuke: folds
Dougefresh05: folds
ollynorth: folds
Schwallie4: raises $16 to $24
lionel876: calls $16
*** FLOP *** [5h Ts 3h]
Schwallie4: checks
lionel876: checks
*** TURN *** [5h Ts 3h] [8c]
Schwallie4: bets $26
lionel876: calls $26
*** RIVER *** [5h Ts 3h 8c] [Ah]
Schwallie4: checks
lionel876: bets $71
Schwallie4 said, "so sick that you would bluff here"
Schwallie4 said, "JJ?"
Schwallie4: calls $71
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lionel876: shows [7d 7s] (a pair of Sevens)
Schwallie4: shows [Qd Qc] (a pair of Queens)
Schwallie4 collected $240 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $243 | Rake $3
Board [5h Ts 3h 8c Ah]
Seat 1: lionel876 showed [7d 7s] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 8: Schwallie4 (big blind) showed [Qd Qc] and won ($240) with a pair of Queens
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: 1/2, QQ vs aggro player on scary board

very nice call there schwallie. lionel is such a pain to play against. hes called so many of my three bets, both in position and ooop. on the plus side hes pretty easy to trap into some huge pots. no doubt hes betting on the ace every single time.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: 1/2, QQ vs aggro player on scary board

lol seems like he plays 77 well...

** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 2Cards2Come [Jh Jd]
Pumuckel1: folds
Dilith: folds
gabcsi03: folds
treysfull21: folds
SteadyEddy: folds
nicu: folds
lionel876: raises $6 to $8
pdhargat: folds
2Cards2Come: raises $18 to $26
lionel876: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [Td Qd 9d]
2Cards2Come: bets $30
lionel876: calls $30
*** TURN *** [Td Qd 9d] [3c]
2Cards2Come: checks
lionel876: bets $77
2Cards2Come: raises $67 to $144 and is all-in
lionel876: calls $64 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Td Qd 9d 3c] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
2Cards2Come: shows [Jh Jd] (a straight flush, Eight to Queen)
lionel876: mucks hand
2Cards2Come collected $392 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $395 | Rake $3
Board [Td Qd 9d 3c 8d]
Seat 1: gabcsi03 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: treysfull21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SteadyEddy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: nicu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: lionel876 (button) mucked [7d 7s]
Seat 6: pdhargat (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: 2Cards2Come (big blind) showed [Jh Jd] and won ($392) with a straight flush, Eight to Queen
Seat 8: Pumuckel1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Dilith folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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