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Old 10-01-2007, 08:49 AM
Jimmakos Jimmakos is offline
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Default 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $100.00
BB: $23.00
UTG: $107.15
MP: $43.90
CO: $316.70
Hero (BTN): $101.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $4.00, Hero calls $4.00, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($17) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $35.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $97.10</font>, SB calls all-in for $61.00
Uncalled bet of $1.10 returned to Hero

Villain is 26/9/1.2 (180 hands). What's his most probable holding here? Overpair (!!!), two pair, trips, FD+SD, TP+FD or SD? Should we ever fold without any reads? Maybe wait for the turn card before we push and if something scary turns, shutdown?
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

I just found another similar hand. Villain here is 21/14/2. Any suggestions?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $99.75
BB: $99.50
UTG: $135.80
Hero (MP): $108.00
CO: $117.55
BTN: $154.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00, 3 folds, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($12.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $12.00</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $104.00</font>, BB calls all-in for $83.50
Uncalled bet of $8.50 returned to Hero
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

first hand is fine
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

both hands are complety 100% absolutely standard, and you are ahead 99% of the time here
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

What if in the 2nd hand we raise to $35 and he pushes? Call?
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

yes, don't fold sets, it's really that simple.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:00 PM
The_Bonzo The_Bonzo is offline
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Default Re: 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

I don't think I'd ever fold here.

I would expect to see a monster draw like Ah 7h or Ah 5h.

Or, of course, a lower set.
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

i don't fold either hand as combo draws play aggressive, first hand could easily be a lower set as well
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

dont fold either.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: 100NL trips IP facing push - scary board, ever fold?

never ever fold top set. you have good equity against a made straight and crush everything else

his range is mainly 2 pairs, sets, combo draws and straights and other hands are possible depending on how bad he is.

you don't want to see a turn card, for the reason you say; you do't want to fold the turn if a scarecard hits, because he might have hit a flush, for example, or he may have a lower set and you still crush him.

also a scary turn card, such as the 5 of hearts will not allow you to get any value out of other sets and 2 pairs which you could have easily stacked on the flop
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