River play with trips against a raise

[Msrmek]

villain has 33% flops seen with 35 hands and is passive postflop

Seat 1: gobidion ($13.40)
Seat 2: traxamillion ($17.35)
Seat 3: Arvykas ($13.65)
Seat 4: hero ($9.60)
Seat 5: turner120971 ($10)
Seat 6: Honk1 ($17.70)

gobidion posts the small blind of $0.05
traxamillion posts the big blind of $0.10

turner120971 posts $0.10
The button is in seat #6

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [8h 8d]
villain calls $0.10
hero raises to $0.30
turner120971 folds
Honk1 folds
gobidion folds
traxamillion folds
villain calls $0.20


*** FLOP *** [8c 3d Qh]
villain checks
hero checks (Attempting to slowplay)


*** TURN *** [8c 3d Qh] [9s]
villain checks
hero bets $0.50
villain calls $0.50


*** RIVER *** [8c 3d Qh 9s] [Ad]
villian checks
hero bets $1
villain raises to $3.10
hero ?

[brandysbich]

shove

[IAGTTAYM]

I would shove and expect to get called by most two pair+ hands.
Id be pretty suprised if villian checked JT on the river, even though he is passive.

[Nick C]

To be honest, I would probably just call because I always get scared when JT beats me (donkish players overrate that starting hand so much). Also, a river checkraise by a passive player shows a lot of strength. And people love to slowplay.

AQ/A9/A8/A3 is 30 combos, whereas JT is only 16, though, so there is that. Meanwhile, 33 (3 combos) isn't out of the question either, but as far as that goes, neither are the bigger sets.

I guess pushing might actually be best, but I think the river checkraise from this player is going to be the absolute nuts a little more often than the combos alone indicate. The action does look a lot like aces up, but you'd think AQ would bet the turn (or donk the flop), and Villain might have folded A3o preflop.

I'm not a big fan of the flop check, by the way. I think you should be building a pot instead (this Villain is unlikely to do it for you).

[anibalk]

Pre-flop: raise 0.45 (4bb+.5 x caller)
Flop: raise 2/4 or 3/4 of pot
I really don't like check in flop.

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Also, a river checkraise by a passive player shows a lot of strength. And people love to slowplay.

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[Perk76]

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Hero checks (Attempting to slowplay)


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I stopped reading the hand at this point. Bet your hands if you want to win stacks you were the preflop raiser. It will get suspicious if you check here and try to go ape [censored] later in the hand. You wont win full stacks this way, as most people will assume QQQ for example. Betting makes it easier to play. Sure there are gonna be times where they fold, but it takes hands to win money, so build the pot.

[Logun]

raise more PF = like 0.40. He gets amazing odds to call your 0.20 raise (2.75:1)

Bet your hand on the flop, this will lend credibility to your other c-bets when you do miss.

shove river. I don't expect to see QQ, or AA here often and if he has TJ then you let him get there by giving him a free card.

[Chicago Twister]

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villain [...] is passive postflop

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*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [8h 8d]
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hero raises to $0.30
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*** FLOP *** [8c 3d Qh]
villain checks
hero checks (Attempting to slowplay)

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Don't slowplay, holy crap this is fantastically bad. You raised pre, he is expecting you to bet. When you don't it looks suspicious. You're in position and he CHECKED. There are a lot of bets to get before you are all in and CHECKING does not get you there any quicker. If you're worried about losing customers, you're worried about the wrong thing. You should be worried about how to get the most money out of a made hand, not how to get a mesely bet out of an air hand.

Your turn play was even worse for the same reasons.

Not that it matters since you completely butchered the whole hand up till now, but on the river I'd push & pray he drew out an Ace.