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Old 09-30-2007, 07:20 AM
vimpan vimpan is offline
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Default Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

Am I folding to the flopraise? What is the best solution on turn here?

UTG is 56/15/0.28 over just above a 100 hands
BB is 19/10/0.9 over 500+ hands,

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com


<font color="#C00000">Hero ($219.45)</font>
SB ($525.05)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($96.81)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($223.07)</font>
MP ($447.94)
CO ($19.00)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $4, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($16) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $16</font>, Hero calls $16, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $48</font>, UTG calls $32, Hero calls $32.

Turn: ($160) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $46.81 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $46.81, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:33 AM
Orsman Orsman is offline
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Default Re: Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

fold preflop

as played I would fold to the flopraise and as played fold on turn, You are never ahead of 2 players here
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

<font color="#FF4444">[*] </font> Preflop isn't great, but UTG obviously sucks big time and is passive postflop which might turn QTo into a (marginal) call.

On the flop I'd raise and expect to be good very often. You don't want to slowplay TopTwo on a board this drawy. Anyone with a big [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] will pay you.
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:41 AM
Kimpan Kimpan is offline
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Default Re: Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

I fold preflop.. On this monotone flop you have to raise.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:43 PM
spivey spivey is offline
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Default Re: Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

As played, shove the turn.

But yeah, raise the flop yourself.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:45 PM
Jonezycat Jonezycat is offline
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Default Re: Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

As played with UTG calling I shove.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:47 PM
martijn martijn is offline
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Default Re: Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

fold preflop and raise flop

edit, this might seem a bit harsh, but I dont think you can beat 200nl if you cant see what you did wrong in this hand.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:39 PM
vimpan vimpan is offline
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Default Re: Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

Everyone wants to fold PF to a poor player, in position, that I cant understand.
Ofcourse a flopraise here is std but I thought of getting it in on a safe turn instead, is that such spew?
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:43 PM
KeanuReaver KeanuReaver is offline
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Default Re: Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

isolate raise preflop will make this hand infinitely easier
i swear to god i saw this exact hand a few months ago posted here, same action and everything
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:43 PM
Xanta Xanta is offline
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Default Re: Totally lost with top two pair in a 3 way pot

Getting it in on a safe turn sucks because you're never gonna get called by a big diamond on the turn if you bomb it, whereas you will and you'll get more value if you bomb the flop.
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