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Old 09-29-2007, 06:03 AM
Julio Julio is offline
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Default KK vs. too many damn callers

For both of these hands assume that all of our opponents have VP$IP's of over 30. Also assume that almost all of them were your typical loose passive/aggressive player looking to burn time on PokerStars playing LHE for the lowest limit possible.

For this hand I eventually let it go because I thought I was up against too many damn players capping the bets

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.02/$0.04
7 players
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Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (20SB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (16.5BB, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, UTG calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (24.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, UTG calls.

Final pot: 32.5BB
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:59 AM
Daniel Magix Daniel Magix is offline
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Default Re: KK vs. too many damn callers

What's with the flat call on the flop?? Raise the flop, cap it if need be, or at least call the raises after you there. Letting the hand go is fine, you just did it one street too early.
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Old 09-29-2007, 08:15 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: KK vs. too many damn callers

i'd raise the flop simply because MAYBE we have the best hand against UTG's kq/aq/dd and the pot is 21sb. otherwise it seems expert.
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Old 09-29-2007, 09:48 AM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: KK vs. too many damn callers

Raise the first flop bet. As played I wouldn't fold the flop but the turn. Depending on reads of course. If villains are rocky ur flop fold is fine.
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Old 09-29-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: KK vs. too many damn callers

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For both of these hands assume that all of our opponents have VP$IP's of over 30. Also assume that almost all of them were your typical loose passive/aggressive

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Don't fold the flop.
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:46 PM
Smurph64 Smurph64 is offline
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Default Re: KK vs. too many damn callers

folding the flop is a mistake, play the cap 100% of the time.
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Old 09-29-2007, 03:16 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default Re: KK vs. too many damn callers

"KK vs. too many damn callers"

if you think this is a bad situation when you have KK then i really dont think you understand what limit hold em is fundamentally about.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:00 PM
Mempho Mempho is offline
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Default Re: KK vs. too many damn callers

What was your plan on the flop?
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