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Old 09-29-2007, 02:20 AM
ShowUthExit ShowUthExit is offline
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Default top 2 on coordinated board

no clue what to do... villain is unknown

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Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $115
UTG+1: $287.35
Hero: $220.85
Button: $253.75
SB: $178.40
BB: $120

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($14, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $10</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($44, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $42</font>, UTG folds, Hero ?
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:43 AM
mdkrahn mdkrahn is offline
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Default Re: top 2 on coordinated board

shove.

I think overpairs, and hands like AJ, J9, 9T are in his range.
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: top 2 on coordinated board

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shove.

I think overpairs, and hands like AJ, J9, 9T are in his range.

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so you play many unknowns who don't 3bet here after a raise and a call with QQ,KK, and AA?
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:49 AM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default Re: top 2 on coordinated board

I feel like he always has 7-8 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

This is a gay spot because he can always be scared-betting T9, J9 ish hands.

mehhh i think call turn is fine.
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: top 2 on coordinated board

reraise pre

raise flop

wtf
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: top 2 on coordinated board

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reraise pre

raise flop

wtf

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i dont like rr pre

i always raise flop here, agree

turn is interesting, albeit weird it got to this point. When he pots turn, I think its a tough spot
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Old 09-29-2007, 02:52 AM
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im pretty sure not isolating this player is criminal

its like, free money
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Old 09-29-2007, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: top 2 on coordinated board

Calling preflop is alright if you know the blinds are loose and likely to tag along for a multiway pot. If you're just flat calling and getting HU and folding to his cbet on a lot of boards, that's not really great. Maybe you mix it up postflop, I dunno. 3-betting here preflop is an option here as well (as is folding if the villain is tough).

On the flop, with a lead and a call, you really need to raise here. Any queen out there has an open ender, any king has a gutter, if the board goes 4-straight it's hard for you to continue, etc. A raise seems pretty likely to be called here by at least one of them, and we probably have the best hand.

On the turn, the way you got here, I'd call but I'm a little bit nervous. I may fold the river depending on what happens.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:31 AM
CHUCKLES CHUCKLES is offline
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Default Re: top 2 on coordinated board

seems like the sb is trying to protect something. more likely that a straight would be wanting callers and bet less.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:47 AM
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I wouldn't 3bet this preflop against an unknown minraiser in utg. Calling is best without any stats or reads.

Definetly raise this flop to about $40, you have a good hand and any Q, K or 8, maybe even a 9 will kill your hand and close the action. As played I would just call turn and maybe call a smallish riverbet.
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