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Old 09-28-2007, 04:06 PM
Mat Mat is offline
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Default 400NL - QQ in a reraised 3-way pot - river decision

UTG is a 18/14/2 TAG, I think he's really not good but he's not what I'd call a fish. Nitty postflop and not very aggressive, plays straightforward. I'm pretty sure he has a very tight calling range of 3-bets, even when in position. Button is random donk 35/3/1.5.

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MP3 (393.70)
CO (327.00)
Button (254.70)
SB (503.40)
BB (127.80)
UTG (432.00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $14.00, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG calls $36.00, Button calls $36.00,

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $156 )
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks,

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $156 )
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100.00</font>, UTG calls $100.00, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>,

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $356 )

I guess check calling is pretty terrible against this player because he wouldn't value bet worst, so the options we have are c/f or shove, right ?

Thoughts on all streets are welcome, I already know my preflop 3-bet is not big enough...
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:33 PM
AceHiStation AceHiStation is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - QQ in a reraised 3-way pot - river decision

Well, first off UTG has $282 left on the river is covered.
I was thinking to bet/fold, but I didn't realize you aren't too deep. I think TT-KK is a real possibility. I would say AA is not, but TT is barely a possibility. Either way I'm a bit torn, but I'm probably shoving in hopes of JJ/TT, and regretting it as I run into KK or a flush. Problem is getting value of hands you beat is very difficult here. I think Check/Call is probably the smarter line, but not the line I take.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - QQ in a reraised 3-way pot - river decision

I would shove, check calling is dumb
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - QQ in a reraised 3-way pot - river decision

reason for check flop?
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - QQ in a reraised 3-way pot - river decision

Don't check the flop. Shoving river with these stack sizes seems good.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - QQ in a reraised 3-way pot - river decision

Tough spot vs. a nit. I'm not sure he calls TT and JJ often enough to make a shove +EV. Could he have something retarded like AdKx?
If he's as nitty as you say check/fold might be best.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - QQ in a reraised 3-way pot - river decision

A check is pointless here becasue he isnt betting less than a shove and he isnt going to check a hand you beat. So it has to be either c/f or just shove as you said. I think there are only 2 hands you can succesfully get paid on, TT and JJ. After just looking at it, I would suggest a c/f. Based off your description, I dont think villain will bluff in this spot. He may have AdKx and called thinking he had 15outs.
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - QQ in a reraised 3-way pot - river decision

I actually shoved, he tanked for ever and finally called with AA lol.
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - QQ in a reraised 3-way pot - river decision

i think i'd have shoved. thing is, it's hard for me to put him on AA or KK when he checks the flop behind you. is that at all standard for a semi-nit to do with AA/KK on that kind of wet flop and i'm not realizing it, or did he just take a weak line?
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