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09-28-2007, 03:32 PM
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Re: The Hitler-Like Basis of the Iranian Regime\'s Ideology
Ahmedinejad is a nut. I agree with you that it would be muc better for the Iranian regime not to have nuclear weapons. But if the regime's intention is really the Nazi-like genocide of Jews, why hasn't it killed its own small Jewish population? Or anything remotely approximating that? (Please don't respond with examples of mistreatment of Jews in Iran. I am well aware of them. But nonetheless Iran is not anything like Nazi Germany for its Jewish population).
Silly arguments like this just push people into over-sympathising with the likes of AJad. Also conflating the likes of Salafai zealots and Khomeni-ists is just ignorant. 
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09-28-2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: The Hitler-Like Basis of the Iranian Regime\'s Ideology
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...But if the regime's intention is really the Nazi-like genocide of Jews, why hasn't it killed its own small Jewish population? ... [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps fearing a reprisal from Israel that's not that far away (a country that has nukes too). IMO you offer a silly rationale for downplaying the danager of a Nazi-like genocide btw.
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09-28-2007, 04:00 PM
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Re: The Hitler-Like Basis of the Iranian Regime\'s Ideology
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Perhaps fearing a reprisal from Israel that's not that far away (a country that has nukes too). [/ QUOTE ] I suppose. Still, they could certainly get away with a lot more than they do now. Giving the Jewish community a token seat in parliament, while a stupid approach to politics, is still a symbolic gesture they are far from having to perform, for example. "IMO you offer a silly rationale for downplaying the danager of a Nazi-like genocide btw. " I don't follow.
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09-29-2007, 09:28 AM
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Re: The Hitler-Like Basis of the Iranian Regime\'s Ideology
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[ QUOTE ] Because it's not in their best interests even if they wanted to. [/ QUOTE ] Nor would nuking Israel be. [/ QUOTE ] That depends on what one believes. Ahmadinejad, regarding a passenger plane that crashed in Teheran: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow." Ahmadinejad: "We must prepare ourselves to rule the world and the only way to do that is to put forth views on the basis of the Expectation of the Return (of the Mahdi)" Ahmadinejad: "If we work on the basis of the Expectation of the Return [of the Mahdi], all the affairs of our nation will be streamlined and the administration of the country will become easier." So if one believes that hastening the Return of the Mahdi (in the last days) will be beneficial to Iran and to Muslims (and it is so considered by Shi'ite doctrine that it will be VERY beneficial when it transpires), then Iran nuking Israel might easily be considered to have highly positive expectation, as it will hasten the return of the hidden 12th Imam who, after Apocalyptic war, will usher in a reign of Islamic rule and Islamic justice over all the world leading to an era of universal peace on Earth. Thanks for reading.
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09-28-2007, 04:02 PM
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Re: The Hitler-Like Basis of the Iranian Regime\'s Ideology
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Ahmedinejad is a nut. I agree with you that it would be muc better for the Iranian regime not to have nuclear weapons. But if the regime's intention is really the Nazi-like genocide of Jews, why hasn't it killed its own small Jewish population? Or anything remotely approximating that? (Please don't respond with examples of mistreatment of Jews in Iran. I am well aware of them. But nonetheless Iran is not anything like Nazi Germany for its Jewish population). Silly arguments like this just push people into over-sympathising with the likes of AJad. Also conflating the likes of Salafai zealots and Khomeni-ists is just ignorant. [/ QUOTE ] OP is well aware that Iran poses no threat of undertaking another holocaust, nuclear or otherwise. He is merely being a good little neocon and spreading lies and propaganda in advance of our invasion of Iran.
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09-28-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: The Hitler-Like Basis of the Iranian Regime\'s Ideology
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[ QUOTE ] Ahmedinejad is a nut. I agree with you that it would be muc better for the Iranian regime not to have nuclear weapons. But if the regime's intention is really the Nazi-like genocide of Jews, why hasn't it killed its own small Jewish population? Or anything remotely approximating that? (Please don't respond with examples of mistreatment of Jews in Iran. I am well aware of them. But nonetheless Iran is not anything like Nazi Germany for its Jewish population). Silly arguments like this just push people into over-sympathising with the likes of AJad. Also conflating the likes of Salafai zealots and Khomeni-ists is just ignorant. [/ QUOTE ] OP is well aware that Iran poses no threat of undertaking another holocaust, nuclear or otherwise. He is merely being a good little neocon and spreading lies and propaganda in advance of our invasion of Iran. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not a Neo-Con in the least and I despise the misguided and foolish politics of the Neo-Cons. The Neo-Cons are in the process of ruining America domestically and internationally. The ongoing (forever!) Iraq war is a particularly moronic and costly attempt to achieve what the U.S. can never achieve. If you'd read more about Ahmadinejad and the ruling mullahs, and how they run Iran, you might come to realize that their actual level of extremism is probably being downplayed rather than exagerrated in the West.
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09-28-2007, 08:42 PM
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Re: The Hitler-Like Basis of the Iranian Regime\'s Ideology
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ahmedinejad is a nut. I agree with you that it would be muc better for the Iranian regime not to have nuclear weapons. But if the regime's intention is really the Nazi-like genocide of Jews, why hasn't it killed its own small Jewish population? Or anything remotely approximating that? (Please don't respond with examples of mistreatment of Jews in Iran. I am well aware of them. But nonetheless Iran is not anything like Nazi Germany for its Jewish population). Silly arguments like this just push people into over-sympathising with the likes of AJad. Also conflating the likes of Salafai zealots and Khomeni-ists is just ignorant. [/ QUOTE ] OP is well aware that Iran poses no threat of undertaking another holocaust, nuclear or otherwise. He is merely being a good little neocon and spreading lies and propaganda in advance of our invasion of Iran. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not a Neo-Con in the least and I despise the misguided and foolish politics of the Neo-Cons. The Neo-Cons are in the process of ruining America domestically and internationally. The ongoing (forever!) Iraq war is a particularly moronic and costly attempt to achieve what the U.S. can never achieve. If you'd read more about Ahmadinejad and the ruling mullahs, and how they run Iran, you might come to realize that their actual level of extremism is probably being downplayed rather than exagerrated in the West. [/ QUOTE ] I love this line of thinking. You're saying that the neocons have been wrong about absolutely everything else, but they are right about Iran. Wow.
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09-28-2007, 08:52 PM
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Re: The Hitler-Like Basis of the Iranian Regime\'s Ideology
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ahmedinejad is a nut. I agree with you that it would be muc better for the Iranian regime not to have nuclear weapons. But if the regime's intention is really the Nazi-like genocide of Jews, why hasn't it killed its own small Jewish population? Or anything remotely approximating that? (Please don't respond with examples of mistreatment of Jews in Iran. I am well aware of them. But nonetheless Iran is not anything like Nazi Germany for its Jewish population). Silly arguments like this just push people into over-sympathising with the likes of AJad. Also conflating the likes of Salafai zealots and Khomeni-ists is just ignorant. [/ QUOTE ] OP is well aware that Iran poses no threat of undertaking another holocaust, nuclear or otherwise. He is merely being a good little neocon and spreading lies and propaganda in advance of our invasion of Iran. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not a Neo-Con in the least and I despise the misguided and foolish politics of the Neo-Cons. The Neo-Cons are in the process of ruining America domestically and internationally. The ongoing (forever!) Iraq war is a particularly moronic and costly attempt to achieve what the U.S. can never achieve. If you'd read more about Ahmadinejad and the ruling mullahs, and how they run Iran, you might come to realize that their actual level of extremism is probably being downplayed rather than exagerrated in the West. [/ QUOTE ] I love this line of thinking. You're saying that the neocons have been wrong about absolutely everything else, but they are right about Iran. Wow. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, they are right about the threat Iran poses. Even a broken watch is right twice a day.
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