KQ - 2 folds on the flop

[raze720]

Am playing KQ too tight on the flop?

Hand 1: No reads.

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $35.35
BB: $35.05
UTG: $59.40
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $102.45

CO posts $1.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3.50</font>, CO calls $2.50, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($12) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">CO bets $12.00</font>, 2 folds
Uncalled bet of $12.00 returned to CO

Pot Size: $12.00 ($0.60 Rake)

Hand 2: No reads.

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $62.50
BB: $92.60
Hero (UTG): $110.85
MP: $26.50
CO: $23.35
BTN: $98.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, 4 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $16.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $10.50 returned to BB

Pot Size: $18.50 ($0.50 Rake)

[monkover]

hand 1 sucks.. you are not siriously considering only playing KQs for str8 and flush value?
hand 2 is read dependent...

[sixhigh]

<font color="#FF4444">[*] </font>ZOMG! Why do you play KQ at all if you fold TP on the flop?

1st hand is def. at least a call with position, 2nd hand too.

[UrInLuck]

wow you are tight. hand 1 is terrible
hand 2 is atleast a call and reeval turn.

[raze720]

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wow you are tight. hand 1 is terrible
hand 2 is atleast a call and reeval turn.

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OK. Can someone give me a range for hand 1? Also, don't forget that the pre-flop raiser isn't out of the hand yet when the action comes to us. It might be too tight but I really can't see how it can be terrible.

[sixhigh]

<font color="#FF4444">[*] </font> [ QUOTE ]
Can someone give me a range for hand 1?

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Worse Kings, T9, QT, clubs, whatsoever and of course some hands that beat you. I wouldn't worry too much about UTG as he probably would have bet if he had any hand at all and seeing everyone on this table is somewhat short I'd get it in against CO on any blank turn.

[ajmargarine]

Hand 1 you have to look at what both players are doing. UTG PFR's and then checks 3-way. This means he's usually missed the flop big time and is giving up on the hand. CO, knowing that, should be stabbing at the pot with anything and everything.

[Orsman]

In hand 1 CO is posting OOP and then calls a raise, this means he could have pretty much ATC, but his range here is Kx, Jx FD, or SD and is just hoping to take it down. I would call this everytime.

Hand 2 is a little bit thougher, but you hit TP2K on a drawy flop and you are in position, call and see what happens on the turn.