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Old 09-28-2007, 10:51 AM
Frawa Frawa is offline
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Default NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

my 1st or 2nd hand at this table
villain is 23/6.7/1.5/ with a wts of 35 over 800+ hands


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $99.00
BB: $118.75
UTG: $199.90
MP: $95.45
CO: $102.20
BTN: $41.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $4.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $13.00</font>, BB calls $12.00, CO folds

Flop: ($30) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $50.00</font>

do i wanna play for stacks here?

i have no idea about his coldcalling range PF in the BB tbh

whats my play?
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

I would play for stacks here. I believe his range includes smaller pairs, over cards, and flush draws. I don't believe getting it in here is a mistake in the long run.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

I play more PL than NL - so take this for what it is worth.

I think your flop bet is quite weak given the flush draw is out there. More laggy opponents will seize on this.

I would make this more like $27 and if raised I think I could find a fold. With your bet I think it is more difficult, but folding is probably the most sensible option. At the end of the day you really only beat 88,99,1010 and are in trouble vs AcKc/AcQc although still slightly ahead.

Generally I think it is fair to say that most sensible opponents cold calling range after a raise and a re-raise with a player still to act is medium to high pocket pairs and AK.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

but 3betting in the SB isnt really a weak move plus my flopbet isnt weak either imo (could have been a litte bigger in hindsight...)
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

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but 3betting in the SB isnt really a weak move plus my flopbet isnt weak either imo (could have been a litte bigger in hindsight...)

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Bigger bets get more worse hands to fold. I think this bet size is fine as long as you don't fold to a raise like in this hand.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

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but 3betting in the SB isnt really a weak move plus my flopbet isnt weak either imo (could have been a litte bigger in hindsight...)

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It's a little weak with the draws. One would expect something close to psb on the flop to protect a good made hand on this drawy board, so when you make it weaker it causes many aggro players to .... well, play aggressively against you, making your decisions tougher.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

as mentioned above i admit that my bet wasnt wellsized - i usually fire a PSB here

comments on my line as played?
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

I think it is close - opponent is not massively aggressive and doesn't play complete crap by the looks of his stats. I think you are looking at a hand that beats you often enough to fold this.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

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as mentioned above i admit that my bet wasnt wellsized - i usually fire a PSB here

comments on my line as played?

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I think it's close, particularly since 1/3 of your stack is already in the pot, and there are many hands you're ahead of here against a guy with these stats. It's probably a good idea to run some ranges on pokerstove and see what your equity is. I don't have time right now, but might come back to this.

Anyhow, in practice I probably push this, but I won't be surprised if our equity against his range makes a fold more sensible.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: NL100 , JJ faces reraise on flop

I think playing for stacks is sensible, if a little loose, here. Villain may be putting you on AK or a draw.
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