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Old 09-27-2007, 05:00 PM
HonestRyan HonestRyan is offline
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Default 100NL Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

So a high stakes player for whatever reason has been playing the NL100 on stars and been doing good. we played this hand yesterday and have been 3betting 4 betting each other light a lot PF and on the Flop. this hand sets the mood.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($119.70)
MP1 ($35)
MP2 ($88.50)
MP3 ($52.55)
Hero ($97.90)
Button ($99.50)
SB ($104.50)
BB :#A500AF(HS PLAYER 30/20)/ ($142.05)
UTG ($187.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, MP1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB :#A500AF(HS PLAYER 30/20)/ calls $5, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($14.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
HS PLAYER 30/20 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">HS PLAYER 30/20 raises to $27</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $91.9</font>, HS PLAYER 30/20 calls $64.90.

Turn: ($198.30) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($198.30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

HS Player: shows [6d 6c] (a pair of Sixes)
Hero: shows [Td Jh] (a pair of Tens)
Hero collected $195.30 from pot

Final Pot: $198.30

he has 3bet me every time i have raised coming into a pot today (3xs) and unfortunately is on my left on 2 different tables. I suspect he has been 3betting me light, stats at the moment are 30/20 over a decent sample size.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($68)
UTG ($90.95)
UTG+1 ($179.80)
Hero ($100.25)
MP2 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]HS PLAYER 30/20)/ ($118.50)
MP3 ($91.45)
CO ($101)
Button ($77.80)
SB ($153.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]HS PLAYER 30/20)/ raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls $11.

Flop: ($31.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Hero checks, HS PLayer bets $25, Hero ?
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

I mean if this guy is seriously going to showdown with 6/6 on the above hand, just wait till u get another hand like that and go too town on him.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:13 PM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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Default Re: Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

Yeah I'm not looking for a marginal spot to get his stack if he's actually stacking off that light.
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

Were you talking about twin-carcasas (spelling?) as the villain in this hand?
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

yea i dont see the need to call OOP with AJo against a very good high stakes player and try to outplay him when there are a million better spots at 100nl to get in.

As played you could always 4 bet pre flop to take away his pos. + superior post flop play since youll be pushing any flop or getting all the money in pre flop
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

a shove wouldn't be too bad either. He maybe alittle more hesitant to call with smaller pair this time. You also have a gut shot and along with one over if he has KK or QQ. However, folding is okay too.

The real question is, why do you continue to play on the tables where he is to your immediate left? I would of found a better game/table to replace those already.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

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Were you talking about twin-carcasas (spelling?) as the villain in this hand?

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twin-caracas seemed pretty fishy to me. Only 300 hands with him, but he was running 41/24 and down -$170

but what do I know?
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

dont call the preflop with AJ, you are dominated by ALOT of hands, wait for AK/QQ/JJ and 4bet AI
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

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Were you talking about twin-carcasas (spelling?) as the villain in this hand?

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Bingo
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: Get Creative on flop w/ 2 overs and GSD vs a Good LAG?

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a shove wouldn't be too bad either. He maybe alittle more hesitant to call with smaller pair this time. You also have a gut shot and along with one over if he has KK or QQ. However, folding is okay too.

The real question is, why do you continue to play on the tables where he is to your immediate left? I would of found a better game/table to replace those already.

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I thought about the shove there, and then folded anyways looking for a better spot. I then came to my senses and found much easier tables.
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