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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
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[ QUOTE ] SCs ldo [/ QUOTE ] No, ldo. 87s is my 6th biggest winner. [/ QUOTE ] And it couldn't possibly be an outlier, obv. |
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
500k database
86s -0.18ptbb/hand Q9s -0.18 97s -0.17 93s -0.16 42s -0.15 all the worst hands are suited, looks like i overplay my flushdraws in unraised pots |
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looks like i overplay my flushdraws in unraised pots [/ QUOTE ] Ya, cause all the hands u mentioned are too weak to raise, so you just limp them, amirite? |
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
fwiw 98s is my biggest loser. To put things in perspective, I have only stacked someone with it once in 250,000 hands. I have never stacked someone with my second biggest loser, 97s, despite the fact that since SuperSystem I have been convinced that this hand is the nuts....
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
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fwiw 98s is my biggest loser. To put things in perspective, I have only stacked someone with it once in 250,000 hands. I have never stacked someone with my second biggest loser, 97s, despite the fact that since SuperSystem I have been convinced that this hand is the nuts.... [/ QUOTE ] Maybe you just suck at playing hands with nines in them? |
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
pokerroom.com used to have a spreadsheet with ev results across 100 million+ hands on their site, broken down by position. In the cutoff for example, the 10 most negative ev hands are:
84 s (worst) 97 s A6 Q3 s A3 94 s 85 s J2 s A4 73 s (10th worst) |
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
Incidentally in the above example (from the cutoff) 84s is -0.15ev. According to the spreadsheet the most negative ev hands come from the BB and are:
J2 -0.43 J3 -0.43 94 -0.43 T2 -0.42 73 -0.42 Q2 -0.41 32 -0.41 83 -0.41 T3 -0.41 72 -0.41 |
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
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pokerroom.com used to have a spreadsheet with ev results across 100 million+ hands on their site, broken down by position. In the cutoff for example, the 10 most negative ev hands are: 84 s (worst) 97 s A6 Q3 s A3 94 s 85 s J2 s A4 73 s (10th worst) [/ QUOTE ] this isnt really applicable, because that includes alot of fish playing those hands. people with postflop skills like aejones or me can play all those profitably from the CO. |
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
A3s for me, followed by K9s.
I think these are just hands that I happen to have been put in a lot of tough spots with, or made a lot of mistakes with though. A6s is in my top 20 winningest hands. |
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Re: What is the most -EV hand in no limit hold\'em?
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[ QUOTE ] pokerroom.com used to have a spreadsheet with ev results across 100 million+ hands on their site, broken down by position. In the cutoff for example, the 10 most negative ev hands are: 84 s (worst) 97 s A6 Q3 s A3 94 s 85 s J2 s A4 73 s (10th worst) [/ QUOTE ] this isnt really applicable, because that includes alot of fish playing those hands. people with postflop skills like aejones or me can play all those profitably from the CO. [/ QUOTE ] also i think this includes limit..... it's annoyingly almost-really-useful but actually not-useful-at-all data. |
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