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Old 09-27-2007, 01:45 AM
skreemer7 skreemer7 is offline
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Default 27: I called a minraise L1 with K9s...

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1940)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1270)
MP3 (t1490)
CO (t1530)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1320)
Hero (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t40</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t40, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t30, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t160) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t80</font>, Hero calls t80, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>

Turn: (t320) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t60</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t200</font>, SB calls t140

River: (t720) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t500</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>


Is my line too cheeky?
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: 27: I called a minraise L1 with K9s...

lol @ bluffing off so many chips w/ K hi in L1. I would just let this go pre honestly. Structure is a bit different on stars than FTP obv so I guess calling 20 might be defensible. When he weak bets the turn I understand the raise as it gets a probably 7 to fold I think a decent amount of the time.

I think I like flatting the turn tho to get to draw cheaper. Also if you miss, you don't need to make a huge bluff on the river. The whole hand is pretty messed. I would never get this involved w/ a draw lvl 1 so I think if you can't help yourself from playing big pots early with speculative hands, just fold preflop.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: 27: I called a minraise L1 with K9s...

PF folding is ok, but I am making the call every time, given your line I would probably recommend it next time LOL.

Flatting flop is good, I say just flat turn also because I think there is a good chance your K,9, and heart outs are probably good, and why bloat the pot in level 1. River is probably OK since you raised the turn to rep a T and will now fold out 7s and ace-high (although if he had ace high it would have had to be AXh I hope)

Having said all of that, your goal with calling pf should be dont spew unless you make a monster, and I think the turn and river is spewy. You flopped a nice draw, and he was trying to let you draw for close to 5-1 on the turn which is awesome - I would have just left it at that.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:00 AM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: 27: I called a minraise L1 with K9s...

Nice hand.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: 27: I called a minraise L1 with K9s...

raising the turn that small is the worst thing you can do. either raise bigger or call. id just call and you can bluff river if he checks or make a raise if he bets small. but miniraising on the turn with king really makes no sense
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:22 AM
skreemer7 skreemer7 is offline
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Default Re: 27: I called a minraise L1 with K9s...

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but miniraising on the turn with king really makes no sense

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Turn: (t320) T (2 players)
SB bets t60, Hero raises to t200, SB calls t140

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Old 09-27-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: 27: I called a minraise L1 with K9s...

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but miniraising on the turn with king really makes no sense

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Turn: (t320) T (2 players)
SB bets t60, Hero raises to t200, SB calls t140

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yea i know. i said mini not min. but either way a ~2x min raise has the same effect, he isnt folding to a small raise. do you really think he is folding anything there? and its not like you want him to call. raise to 400+ or call i prefer calling
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