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Old 09-26-2007, 09:54 PM
pifhluk pifhluk is offline
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Default $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

No one has been tight.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG (t4835)
Button (t2780)
SB (t1990)
Hero (t3895)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2755</font>, SB calls t1765 (All-In), Hero calls t2355.

Flop: (t6950) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t6950) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t6950) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t6950
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:58 PM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

I hate this. You have 1140 in the sb if you lose to button and are guaranteed third w/o winning two straight showdowns. Other wise you fold and either SB gets KOd and you are ITM, or button is crippled with the BB hitting him one hand away. I see no reason to g et involved
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:09 PM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

The ranges you would have to assign to have any sort of edge here are ridiculous. I wouldn't even consider calling, KQo would be mucked just as quickly.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:27 PM
pifhluk pifhluk is offline
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Default Re: $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

I think you guys are being a bit nitty.

1) If I win I have a huge lead hu
2) Losing to both and having SB beat button is not very likely.
3) Everyone has been pushing blind to blind etc so the ranges are not that tight.

how can you put this in sngpt w/ 2 all ins?
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

This is excessively risky. I don't see how you are in good shape vs both of them. If you lose, you're [censored].
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:42 AM
BadBeatsCrewDerk BadBeatsCrewDerk is offline
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Default Re: $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

Fold. KQ goes bye bye here as well as stated above. If you fold then the worst case scenario button is left with 2BB and you're still fine.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:07 AM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

[ QUOTE ]

1) If I win I have a huge lead hu

[/ QUOTE ]
Theres no advantage in having a lead HU.

To give you a rough idea, this is what ICM Nash Calculator Results sugests:

BU: 37.9%, 22+ Ax+ K2s+ K9o+ Q6s+ Q9o+ J7s+ J9o+ T7s+ T9o 97s+ 87s 76s
SB: 11.0%, 66+ A8s+ A9o+ KJs+
BB: 9.2%, 66+ ATs+ ATo+ KQs
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:23 AM
Cjmunky2 Cjmunky2 is offline
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Default Re: $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

KJ vs two all ins in that spot = super duper easy fold
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

Your range here is QQ+. Even if the table is not playing tight, the range is the same. Seriously, let this go in an instant.
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:09 AM
billybeartku billybeartku is offline
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Default Re: $27 200/400 Button & SB All In Call from BB KJ

I don't like the call, what if sb beats bn and bn beats you, then you're done. I don't like the idea : IF i win, i have a lead in HU, that's just an excuse for making a -EV call in SNG which I see people do all the time. I wouldn't even consider calling here w/ KQs or 22-77. This is an insta muck for me just as most 2p2ers.
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