AA: scary flop and opp donk bets w/short stack behind me lft 2 act

[valdiesel]

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Without any reads it's hard to put the villain(s) on an accurate range of hands. I don't think BB's bet into you on the flop is a sign of great strength, I think BB has a hand, but you can't be sure your AA is behind.

I think you need to raise on the flop. BB's pot sized flop bet says "I have a hand don't draw on me", maybe I'm giving them too much credit. I would think something like AQ, KQ are likely. I'm not sure that I can give a good reason for raising however.

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Your telling me that in certain situations you will not play a set fast on this board?

There has been many times where I would lead out in a situation like these with monster hands.

I like ILIKETREES's response

[BrunoThePug]

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Your telling me that in certain situations you will not play a set fast on this board?

There has been many times where I would lead out in a situation like these with monster hands.

I like ILIKETREES's response

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There is a difference between what someone reading/posting in here will do and what the average villain at this level would do. Without reads it's hard to say one way or the other.

[Shaollin]

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Your telling me that in certain situations you will not play a set fast on this board?

There has been many times where I would lead out in a situation like these with monster hands.

I like ILIKETREES's response

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Playing a set fast here could be a good move if villain had some info on here and can put hero on a hand like AA or KK and know that there is value in coming out strong first to speak. I mean, for hero to fold AQ to a bet like this on a board like this is imo, acceptable without a read on villain. I'd probably go for a c/r to preflop raisers continuation bet or small stack bet/all-in if I were in villains place..
thats me though.
having a read would make this an easier board to play

[Dunkman]

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Playing a set fast here could be a good move if villain had some info on here and can put hero on a hand like AA or KK and know that there is value in coming out strong first to speak. I mean, for hero to fold AQ to a bet like this on a board like this is imo, acceptable without a read on villain. I'd probably go for a c/r to preflop raisers continuation bet or small stack bet/all-in if I were in villains place..
thats me though.
having a read would make this an easier board to play

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How on earth would villain put hero on AA or KK when the only info that villain has is that hero made a normal raise PF? I think leading out here is weak and I think you pretty much have to just push and hope. You're not going to like any turn cards (well, I suppose As wouldn't be bad,) and all they could do is kill your action if you are in fact ahead.

[Waingro]

A strong pot sized bet on this board into the pfr often indicates a good but not great made hand (think KQ) that says go away. Villain doesn´t want to see any more cards because he doesn´t want to get sucked out on. Villain doesn´t want to get called. Alternately this is a draw or air, again villain wants you to fold. The only hand that beats us that sometimes plays like this is 2pair. A set or a straight would bet smaller to trap you or cr. I would say that in order of likelyhood villains holdings are:
1. made hand weaker than ours
2. draw
3. hands that beats us

I would push this fast and be real excited about it. This is not a tough spot.

[CarmeloAnthony]

valdiesel,

pushing is worst move, your only ahead slightly here not by much, folding is weak, raising will just inflate the pot and leave you with a crying call if he pushes on top..i like a call and reevaluate depending on what card falls on turn you can either slow him down or make an ez fold

based on my read he doesn't have a set/2p here, looks more like pair+draw(fd/sd) and he wants you to come over the top by betting pot and letting him commit to the hand

reply if you have a different opinion..

[CarmeloAnthony]

Again i'm not sure how these games are played so i can definately be totally off here...