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Old 09-26-2007, 04:04 PM
StitchNV StitchNV is offline
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I'm late for a meeting with my lawers, but check this out. I just found it and only got to read a little bit of it, but its good so far.

Full for the fire

And I kind forgot where I was going with this, but keep in mind my stance is that if there where strict laws that gaming website had to abbide by, I think the goverments would be happier, customers would feel safer, and the websites them selves would have something to brag about as long as the followed the rules.
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:11 PM
JPFisher55 JPFisher55 is offline
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In general, I trust the online poker sites not to cheat the players or rig the games. However, recent disclosures on the BBV and NVG forums about Absolute have caused me to wonder about Absolute and UB.
If you haven't read about this matter go to www.absolutepokercheats.com. This is the only "online poker cheats or rigged" situation that I have seen with any validity or legs. But IMO, the evidence would satisfy the perponderance of evidence standard and probably the beyond reasonable doubt standard that someone at Absolute could see their opponents hole cards.
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:20 PM
Skallagrim Skallagrim is offline
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Stitch, you got to do a little better research. The House of Representatives actually passed a version of the UIGEA in 2006 by a vote of like 315 - 95 (I know Engineer can supply the specific numbers and the names of each rep and their vote - more appreciation for Engineer's efforts).

It didnt get through the senate until the late night port security bill attachment only because of a few powerful republican senator's ties to certain gambling interests (like McConnell and Horseracing) - once those few were appeased Frist then got the support he needed to attach it.

Its a good question as to whether it would have passed the (then) republican controlled senate on its own - my guess is it would have with the same sort of appeasements thrown in, Frist just didnt have time to get there in the normal way.

We have to continue to work to correct this situation. Thinking regulated online gambling is a sure thing is to be way over-confident and hence a recipe for defeat.

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Old 09-26-2007, 04:58 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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No it’s not, it’s a blunt “Online gaming should be legalized and controlled” post.

Good.Then STOP thinking anyone in the 2-party system (Ron Paul may be the exception) will ever cure things.

Vote in a Libertarian administration and not only will online gambling be legal, but the government will neither be allowed to stick their noses in the business (except to adjudicate fraud claims), nor will we be required to pay one cent of taxes on our winnings.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:22 PM
StitchNV StitchNV is offline
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In a few weeks I’ll have more undisputable facts memorized, as apposed to just “how I feel” about the situation. (I’ve only been looking into for about 14 hours now.)

But I still feel strongly about asking internet gaming sites to conform to some, if noting else, rigged set of documented standers. If not government possessed, then at least an organization.

If you’re going to try to oppose any from of government, wither it be the US or UK, then you need to have some form of structure, or proof of standards.

I just don’t see online poker as something “worse” then online porn, and although online porn has its own issues, at least you don’t have to go thru some B.S. hassle to use your credit card to get a membership to one of those sites.

Just because we want to gamble online doesn’t mean we should have to go around the system we created to get it done.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:01 PM
MiltonFriedman MiltonFriedman is offline
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Default Impressive opening line, but is it relevant to this thread ?

"I'm late for a meeting with my lawers"

Impressive opening line ... Is that related to anything relevant to this thread ?

You're not one of the OJ Defendants, are you ?
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:06 PM
MiltonFriedman MiltonFriedman is offline
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Default Newsflash ... Libertarians think government regulation is bad ...

Nice article, welcome to 1999 when it was written.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:35 PM
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In a few weeks I’ll have more undisputable facts memorized, as apposed to just “how I feel” about the situation. (I’ve only been looking into for about 14 hours now.)

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This entire thread is a monument to loud ignorance.

You should either (a) come here and ask about the things you know nothing about, or (b) do some serious research, form your opinions, and begin asserting your position. Instead, you start from ignorance, and start spewing poorly founded opinions.

I don't get it.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:37 PM
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In a few weeks I’ll have more undisputable facts memorized, as apposed to just “how I feel” about the situation. (I’ve only been looking into for about 14 hours now.)

[/ QUOTE ]

This entire thread is a monument to loud ignorance.

You should either (a) come here and ask about the things you know nothing about, or (b) do some serious research, form your opinions, and begin asserting your position. Instead, you start from ignorance, and start spewing poorly founded opinions.

I don't get it.

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I think you get it quite clearly.


D$D
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:45 PM
Merkle Merkle is offline
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The absolute cheating link didn't work for me. Could you please repost the item? A few months ago I had some suspicions at that site. It was the only site I have not won at since the first year I played there.

One night there were a couple of players I was suspicious of and all of sudden 5 players spread out over 3 tables (2 or 3 at each table) suddenly lost their connections at the same time.

I haven't played there since.
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