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Old 09-26-2007, 01:33 PM
advis0r advis0r is offline
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Default PLO100 spewy preflop allin call?

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1522973

the ep limp/reraiser has AA like 90% of the time (99% after he isolated with his whole stack) so i have to call his first raise for 18.50$ and see a flop with my hand, right? (assuming he will stack off a lot on the right flops)

the shorty calls my initial raise and then decides to raise allin after the limp/reraise. is it a bad idea to put him on AA/KK/high cards he decides to go with?

is it a problem that the one with Aces is the bigstack and the one with the likely worst hand is the shortstack?

general simulation of the situation:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> Omaha Hi Simulation
522,454 trials (Randomized)

Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
5s7h8s9h 39.03% 203,764 249
AAB* 37.10% 182,793 22,100
AAB*,KKB*,BBBB 23.87% 113,688 22,072

B = any big card (A,K,Q,J)</pre><hr />

with the actual hands in play i calculated that i lose 4$ long term, but with all the dead money in its the right call.

put together: is the allin call good/bad/breakeven against their range of AA,KK,highcards? is it likely that i assumed wrong ranges for their hands that can cripple my equity? also keeping in mind the money already in the pot.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: PLO100 spewy preflop allin call?

If you can put the short stack on big pair/high cards, the allin is fine.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: PLO100 spewy preflop allin call?

standard.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: PLO100 spewy preflop allin call?

usually not what i am looking for with this kind of hand (i prefer to see a flop and break some aces), but as played there is no reason not to put the money in the middle.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: PLO100 spewy preflop allin call?

thx for the answers, so i guess the call is standard.

here i ran into the reverse situation:
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1524100

if i know pizzanrseks has AA** the majority of the time, should i just fold preflop once the action comes back to me?

because also the person behind me could call with a hand like he had (small suited connectors) and be right to do so?

how to avoid these -ev preflop aces situations?
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: PLO100 spewy preflop allin call?

No. I would not fold suited aces preflop. If the third opponent has a low wrap you have a few possible blockers.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: PLO100 spewy preflop allin call?

are you sure?

i had the worst equity of all 4 involved hands:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Omaha Hi: 376992 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
3c Ad 6d Ah 43475 11.53 300341 79.67 33176 8.80 0.159
9s 6c Th 8h 140592 37.29 235020 62.34 1380 0.37 0.375
As 4s Ac 2d 57823 15.34 285993 75.86 33176 8.80 0.197
Qs Ts Kd Qh 100546 26.67 275066 72.96 1380 0.37 0.269

[/ QUOTE ]

once the action comes back to me i have only invested 4BB, if i shove for 92BB more with the other dude having AA a lot of times, im either only a small favourite or a relatively big underdog as i was in this hand?

any way to avoid it?
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:37 AM
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Default Re: PLO100 spewy preflop allin call?

You can fold AAxx but there was a recent hand history where someone got allin in a 3 way hand with AAxx and both his opponents had KKxx and had 83% equity. So, just because you have mediocre AA doesnt mean that the fold is obvious. Folding preflop will not hurt.
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