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Old 09-25-2007, 10:47 AM
ginaa ginaa is offline
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hi.
need help, urgently. i am very unhappy and frustrated. i am losing 100-200$ every day since a few days. its running really bad. i dont ever tilt although i am annoyed due to the bad playing opponents. (buyin mainly 27$ turbo)

i dont make huge mistakes. i think i understand icm quite well.

i admit i am a little confused about the "simulate future games". i think the way a play i am burning money at some situations. the variance is huge, but nobody plays perfect although its my goal to avoid mistakes.

to describe what i mean i will post a few attachments.


1) http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4857/wizard1jn3.jpg

with SFG: i should fold that. i dont understand that. 4 have 4bb and its likely that i dont get a better and in the next hand. When i am in the blinds then i have no fold equity any more. so in my opinion its a push now. assumption: SB+BB are loose, they call with the indicated calling ranges.

2) http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3309/wizard2ik5.jpg

Same hand, but without SFG. wizard suggests push. Do i have to use ALWAYS the SFG when i have max 5bb?


3) http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3491/wizard3fq0.jpg

another ugly situation. without SFG wizard suggests fold of course. but wiht SFG he folds also?! its ugly. when the blind passes me i am dead.

4) http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9544/wizard4hd7.jpg

without SFG. push BUT

5) http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8462/wizard5xy9.jpg with SFG : FOLD !?

i am confused

i dont play anymore so long as i know how to handle these situations. please help me

regards
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:05 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: icm question

1/2/ I'd push here always BUT it's true that you'll be in an ideal situation next hand in the SB with the other small stack in the BB

3/ I'd fold here. You just can't do worse than 84o. Even calling the next hand will probably be better

4/ 5/ looks like a call to me.

I have never used the SFG feature of SnG Wiz.
If I understand well it's only a beta right now.

Anyway, if you want to use it, you have to understand how it works precisely. I'm sure it would help your game.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:27 PM
cidcamp cidcamp is offline
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Default Re: icm question

whats the SFG?
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:41 PM
jurrasstoil jurrasstoil is offline
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Default Re: icm question

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whats the SFG?

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"simulate future games"

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How it works? No idea. Maybe it's taking the next round(s) into the calculation. For example if you lose most of your FE by folding, cause the blinds hit you the next hand. But dunno really.
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:04 AM
Insty Insty is offline
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Default Re: icm question

This seems to be a sngwiz question rather than an ICM.
Post proper (converted) hands if you want to know what to do in a hand.
And make sure you put the buyin in the subject line.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:52 AM
ginaa ginaa is offline
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27$ sng

why convert hands. here you see instant what the wizard will do.
and all we need is the situation, push or fold. nothing more
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:28 AM
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why convert hands. here you see instant what the wizard will do.
and all we need is the situation, push or fold. nothing more

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Not everyone is familiar with the format used by the wizard.
The wizard can be wrong.
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