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Old 09-25-2007, 10:43 PM
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Consistency would be a huge upgrade for the Bears.

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If Griese is consistently average for the Bears, it would be a very good upgrade.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:04 PM
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If Griese is consistently below average for the Bears, it would be a very good upgrade.

[/ QUOTE ]FYP. The move to Griese isn't necessarily *good* they just have no choice. Grossman needs some time on the bench even if he isn't done as a starter (I think he is). I assume they go back to him over Orton? I wonder if Benson's role is in trouble, he's been awful too. Garrett Wolfe ftw?
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:45 PM
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A lot of FYPs in this thread. I guess this is a good move. I removed my avatar and location as I am in mourning over Rex's career.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:56 PM
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People need to stop defending Rex. He sucks. Real bad. Like real, real bad.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:59 PM
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People need to stop defending Rex. He sucks. Real bad. Like real, real bad.

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There was only two posts in this thread supporting him. I liked him and defended him for a long time. It was hard, but I now know that he is not gonna be an NFL QB.
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Old 09-26-2007, 12:29 AM
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People need to stop defending Rex. He sucks. Real bad. Like real, real bad.

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The problem is he's got a great arm. I mean, [censored], look how many chances Jeff George got. This won't be the end of him in Chicago, even though it probably should be. He'll probably be starting for the Bears again before week 8.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:06 PM
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He'll probably be starting for the Bears again before week 8.

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I'd take this bet.

Here's my post from
Chicago Bears 2007 Official Thread.
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Stat Griese Grossman
Completion percentage: 63.0% 54.2%
Yards/attempt: 7.0 6.5
TD/Int ratio: 104/80 28/32
QB rating: 84.5 69.3

Possible reasons why we shouldn't bench Grossman in favor of Griese and why they are insanely idiotic:[*]Point) Grossman's our qb of the future, Griese doesn't have one.[*]Counterpoint) Griese is only 32. At 32, an NFL qb could have several years left in the tank. Who here would rather have a terrible young qb than even a mediocre old one? The future doesn't matter anyway when our present defense and special teams (last night aside) are so good.
[*]Point) Those stats are crap because Griese had a better supporting cast on other teams.[*]Counterpoint) Receiverwise, who'd he have? Rod Smith in Denver? Chris Chambers in Miami? We still have several Pro Bowlers on offense. And even if it's true and Grossman has less support, does it make the difference in the stats above?
[*]Point) Obv Lovie sees both of them practice on a daily basis; he knows things we don't.[*]Counterpoint) Then what the hell's the point of posting on a forum anyway? Besides, it's what happens in a game that matters, not a practice. See the stats above.
[*]Point) Griese's numbers/Griese himself are too old. We'd need current numbers for a proper comparison.[*]Counterpoint) Well we don't have current numbers on Griese because he's not currently playing. Let's change that. If we go back to the past three seasons though, ('04-'06 23 games for Griese altogether,) he has a 67.0% completion percentage, 7.4 yards/attempt, and a 28/21 ratio. He's not as athletic as he was five years ago I'm sure, but then again he has five years more experience.
[*]Point) There's more to being a qb than putting up good numbers. Leadership, for instance.[*]Counterpoint) Yeah, Grossman's doing a super job leading the offense into the toilet. Mad props, yo.

Conclusion: Grossman clearly isn't the only problem on this team. But I'm getting really tired of people saying that Griese won't be any better.

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Anyone who's claiming that Grossman is a better option than Griese is wrong. Anyone claiming that Orton is a better option than Griese is... well I still think wrong but I can at least see the point. Grossman is currently the #2 qb, which means even if Griese is injured we won't get a chance to see whether Orton has improved over the past two years. I think that's a mistake.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:07 PM
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no.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:25 AM
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Consistency would be a huge upgrade for the Bears.

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Over the last dozen games or so, Grossman has been pretty consistant.
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Old 09-26-2007, 05:26 AM
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If I'm Green Bay, I make that deal in a heartbeat.

Hell, if I'm like half the teams in the league, I make that deal in a heartbeat.
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