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Old 09-25-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default AQ brings twopair, turn decision

I have no reads on villain

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($25.65)
Hero ($25.80)
MP ($19.45)
Button ($44.60)
SB ($24.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $1</font>, SB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>, SB calls $1.25.

Turn: ($4.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $9</font>
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: AQ brings twopair, turn decision

push
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: AQ brings twopair, turn decision

put all your chips in the middle
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: AQ brings twopair, turn decision

I really am quite worried about JT here. It's just the one hand that seems consistent for a fishy player on all streets.

But we don't have a read on Villain at all, and there are some worse hands he could have. And if it is in fact JT that he's got, it doesn't look like you'll be getting let off too easy on the river.

So I guess you might as well push, but I am going to say that I'm not ecstatic about the situation. I mean, you did just get turn checkraised, as the PFR, on an AKQx board. I doubt Villain thinks he's bluffing.

To be honest, I think that folding is a consideration, and if it's worse than pushing, it's probably not worse by a whole lot.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: AQ brings twopair, turn decision

FWIW, here are some combos:

JT = 16
55 = 3

A5 = 8
AJ = 8
AT = 8
KQ = 9


And, yeah, that looks good, except that I want to discount the hands we're beating -- probably significantly (A5 is the only one that seems very consistent with the action on all streets once we take preflop into account) -- and I see no reason to discount the hands we're losing to.

On the other hand, the pot's not empty . . .
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: AQ brings twopair, turn decision

my thinking here was he is either:
bluffing
semi-bluffing
value raising KQ
has JT
flopped monster
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: AQ brings twopair, turn decision

[ QUOTE ]
my thinking here was he is either:
bluffing
semi-bluffing
value raising KQ
has JT
flopped monster

[/ QUOTE ]

It's hard to say since Villain is completely unknown, but it seems like a horrible board to be checkraise bluffing against a PFR, even in a blind battle.

I mean, once you bet the turn, it really does look like you have something, and quite possibly that something is very strong.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: AQ brings twopair, turn decision

I don't see us getting away from this hand. 2 Pair with AQ is too strong to fold. Folding here is so weak tight. Get it in there.
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