Banning shortstackers

[CallMeIshmael]

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Wow CMI, you're really getting owned by this guy. If I were you I'd just lay low for awhile to save face.

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I dont think you get how much I dont want to stop believing

[pvn]

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A+++ would read again.

[Leaky Eye]

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Is it because of the global warmings? Is it because there is a Mexican Southerner Spaniard German Japanese Russian Korean Vietnamese Arab under your bed? Is it because of spam in your mailbox?


Please, tell me: why can't you be free?

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That's very amusing. Your point?

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In your mind, how do you think you are doing in this exchange?

[Cry Me A River]

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My OP is more of a wondering if there is a license to ban shortstackers now. It's a small, hated strategy. I know it bothers many players. However, I would think that stinkypete is a widely accepted member of the community and it was a little harsh to ban him, even if it was only 24 hour, when his post was on-point though could be interpreted as trollish.
If someone as valuable as pete could be banned, what chance does a moran like me stand if the forums are being culled of shortstackers?

I understand the hate for shorties, but banning them thinly does bother me. It bothered me so much that I decided to be the drama queen and stir the pot. I've noticed the hate for shorties building and building to the point of irrationality IMO. It seems odd that an internet forum from a publishing company based on gambling with an edge would start to have a witchhunt on shorties.


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I don't think you're allowed to make this kind of post here in ATF - All rational and logical like.

You're right, shorties do take a lot of unfair heat. And since you've pointed that out I'm trying to curb that as well. However, I seem to be damned if I do damned if I don't. If I let people flame shorties with impunity, there's a witchunt going on. If I ask people to cool it on shorty bashing, the forum is jumping the shark.

I'd really appreciate it if you'd make up your mind.

There is no withchunt. As I've said repeatedly, and as you've ignored repeatedly, if there was I'd already have trumped up an excuse to ban you. Hell, the other principal mod of the forum is a semi-regular short stacker. Your wonderings make no sense.

[Specialwon]

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Special,

Is it because of the global warmings? Is it because there is a Mexican Southerner Spaniard German Japanese Russian Korean Vietnamese Arab under your bed? Is it because of spam in your mailbox?


Please, tell me: why can't you be free?

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That's very amusing. Your point?

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In your mind, how do you think you are doing in this exchange?

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Well, thank you for taking the interest. In terms of my original question "wow, do you think you're a lawyer or something, after all it's a temp ban shall we not start writing out our lawsuits?", well, perhaps we'll come to it. What do you think?

[Specialwon]

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Is it because of the global warmings? Is it because there is a Mexican Southerner Spaniard German Japanese Russian Korean Vietnamese Arab under your bed? Is it because of spam in your mailbox?


Please, tell me: why can't you be free?

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That's very amusing. Your point?

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The fact that you have to ask what his point is proves his point.

DUCY? (probably not)

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No, spell it out for me. Like I'm a five year old.

[Dids]

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[Apathy]

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tone appeared trollish

value....more than any of the other posts in the thread




specifics.....never going to happen

I recall apathy or ansky (sorry...sometimes they get confuzzled in my head) posting once that they had an article all ready to go on how to beat shortstacks but decided not to post it as it would detail what good shortstack play is.
The same problem is inherent in responding to the original thread in question.

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that was me yeah, honestly the regulars just really need to study the shortstacks ranges (some of them play very different) and 20bb poker so you can make it less profitable for them.

Even when Im sitting with 300bbs im playing better 20bb poker then most of them even given the fact I am playing 100bb or more effective with other players still to act.

[nath]

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Why would you assume that I assumed otherwise?

Your move punk.

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You've been pretty retarded in both ATF threads I've seen you post in. Are you like this all the time?