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Old 09-21-2007, 01:19 PM
sbj sbj is offline
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Default Re: 6$ - Turbo - 4Tos - BB

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SB is weak.

Questions...
Push preflop? Why / Why not?
Bet on the flop? Why / Why not?
Bet on the turn? Why / Why not?

Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t1240)
Hero (t5710)
UTG (t5135)
Button (t2915)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t800) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t800) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t800) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t400</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1200

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Push preflop? Why
The SB merely limped in but he has started the hand with 3x BB. This tells me that he is likely not a good player ( should be pushing any two) and that his hand is likely weak but wanted to see a flop. Thus he might fold to any pressure.

Push preflop? Why not?
Your hand stinks. In truth, he should call you with any two as he is getting 2:1 after your push and your pushing range is pretty wide.


Bet on the flop? Why
He has shown weakness but limping PF and then checking here. Aggressive poker is winning poker.

Bet on the flop? Why not?
If his hand is as weak as we think, it might have just hit. Your hand still stinks.


Bet on the turn? Why
You now have Top pair. Bet for value. There is a possible flush draw. Don't allow your opponent infinite odds to a draw.

Bet on the turn? Why not?
No good reason not to in my mind.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:53 PM
Gaborsisters Gaborsisters is offline
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Default Re: 6$ - Turbo - 4Tos - BB

WIZ says this is a push preflop for a default opening range of 40%. I agree with SBJ that SB is not an experienced player or he would be pushing any two.

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Old 09-23-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: 6$ - Turbo - 4Tos - BB

Fold, and wait for a better spot. You have a big stack and this not the time to use it. One good push makes up for all this nonsense.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: 6$ - Turbo - 4Tos - BB

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Im calling it if he pushes, so if he completes im allin because i get some extra FE, and hes weak, and its just +ev.

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Your gonna call off a quarter of your stack with T4o? GG.

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800 being a quarter of 5300? interesting.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: 6$ - Turbo - 4Tos - BB

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Im calling it if he pushes, so if he completes im allin because i get some extra FE, and hes weak, and its just +ev.

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Your gonna call off a quarter of your stack with T4o? GG.

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800 being a quarter of 5300? interesting.

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It's not a quarter, but if you're going to mathlame him, get it right: 1040, not 800
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: 6$ - Turbo - 4Tos - BB

Ehmm sb has 1240 and we have 400bb in pot so if he pushes we need to call additional 840 right, not 800 sorry.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:25 AM
auc hincloss auc hincloss is offline
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Default Re: 6$ - Turbo - 4Tos - BB

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Ehmm sb has 1240 and we have 400bb in pot so if he pushes we need to call additional 840 right, not 800 sorry.

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sb does indeed have 1240, so when he completes that leaves him 1040 behind.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: 6$ - Turbo - 4Tos - BB

Ok lets clear it out
1240+5710+5135+2915=15000

So those stacks are before bb post round.
After posting small blind SB has 1040, we have 5310 of our 5710 after posting bb, pot is 600, if he pushes his rest 1040, we need to call 840. to win 1640 pot.

Correct me if i am wrong here.
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