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Old 03-13-2006, 09:52 PM
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check raise the flop, lead the turn and re-raise if possible.
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:59 PM
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I'm glad this gets to be my 100th post beacuse I am a natural smart ass...

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Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
10 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 9
UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 3-bets, 4 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 9 J A (10.5SB, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets, UTG calls, Hero leaves money on the table

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River: T (12.75BB, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, UTG raises, Hero wimps out completely

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I can only be a smart ass about this because I've done it myself, actually a lot. Now go look under your bed, accept the fact that there are no monsters there and bet this [censored] hand until somone bleeds.

As to what the rest of you are talking about in this thread [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]...
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:30 PM
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There is a huge difference between 'seeing monsters under the bed' and putting your opponent on a range of hands and determining if you have EV or not.
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:32 PM
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I understand being a smart ass as well as anyone [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

but I think this is an overstatement...
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Hero wimps out completely


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Hero showed strength and was raised. I think just calling with that board is far from "completely" wimping out.
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Old 03-14-2006, 12:38 AM
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There is a huge difference between 'seeing monsters under the bed' and putting your opponent on a range of hands and determining if you have EV or not.

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So what's the range?
KQ (16 ways) (your obvious choice) A9 (3 ways) AT (9 ways) AJ (9 ways) J9 (3 ways) JT (9 ways), there could be more, how about AK?. UTG, the checkraiser, has been sandwiched. He never coldcalled post flop. AT is the most likely. So 33 (maybe 42 if you like AK and I do) hands total, MHIG against 17 of the 33 or 52%. 3 in the pot now even if MP3 mucks, my 3 bet is still +EV. Now back to being a smart ass...

Please note the tasteful and articulate use of emphasis in my recent posts.
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Old 03-14-2006, 01:43 AM
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There is a huge difference between 'seeing monsters under the bed' and putting your opponent on a range of hands and determining if you have EV or not.

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So what's the range?
KQ (16 ways) (your obvious choice) A9 (3 ways) AT (9 ways) AJ (9 ways) J9 (3 ways) JT (9 ways), there could be more, how about AK?. UTG, the checkraiser, has been sandwiched. He never coldcalled post flop. AT is the most likely. So 33 (maybe 42 if you like AK and I do) hands total, MHIG against 17 of the 33 or 52%. 3 in the pot now even if MP3 mucks, my 3 bet is still +EV. Now back to being a smart ass...

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You need to assign a 'likelyness' factor to the hands though based upon his play.

KQ: A loose call on the turn but otherwise it fits

Ax: Doesn't make much sense as he didn't bet/raise on the flop or turn

J9: Again doesn't seem to fit as he didn't bet/raise on the flop or turn

JT: A loose peel on the turn but otherwise seems reasonable
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