NL200 - Is this always quads?

[Snipe]

I shove w/ JJ+ here and play it exactly the same.

In this situation, I pitched the hand.

[AggJedi]

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are you guys folding AA?

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LOL @ Folding AA.

[jeccross]

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are you guys folding AA?

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LOL @ Folding AA.

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Why lol?

Surely that follows from saying "this is quads". I think the point he was making is, "how sure are you that this is quads"

[Imrahil]

This can be like 99-AA sometimes so I'd call it w/ AA. Fold your 88 here. I mean, what can he have that you beat?

[Gorgi24]

No way you can fold AA here... I ditto Snipe... I would call everyting JJ+

[Unknown Soldier]

AA is close imo. def not "lol at folding AA"

i still couldnt find a fold though

[shpanko]

I hate your turn bet.

[Snipe]

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I hate your turn bet.

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So you're the second to say that. Care to elaborate?

My hand is likely best when it's checked to me on the turn.
My hand is very vulnerable.
As people never fold a paired board to CBet these days, if he didn't believe me on the flop, he likely still thinks I'm FOS and will call any PP I'm beating - maybe even AHi.

Now granted, if C/R here, I have a decision to make, however I'd argue that even if I fold everytime he C/R, the equity I lose will likely be more than compensated for by the times he calls w/ a worse hand.

[kekedarius]

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AA is close imo. def not "lol at folding AA"

i still couldnt find a fold though

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I'd call with probably JJ+ here, but expect to be about breaking even.

[mdkrahn]

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I hate your turn bet.

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I strongly agree.

This is a perfect spot to apply pot control,
you have position, a medium strength hand, with good showdown value.

There's not much he's calling the flop with,
that can call this turn that you beat.