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#11
09-24-2007, 11:31 AM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
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[ QUOTE ] No. Best case we are facing AQ and the other guy folds. So shove. [/ QUOTE ] lol... [/ QUOTE ] You are not going to get a fold, but you are way ahead of the raiser's range and ahead of the reraiser's range. 
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#12
09-24-2007, 11:40 AM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
I felt like the raiser might be trying to isolate with a mid pair or AQ so I think shoving is correct considering the original raiser's range and his dead money in the pot.
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No. Best case we are facing AQ and the other guy folds. So shove. [/ QUOTE ] lol... [/ QUOTE ] You are not going to get a fold, but you are way ahead of the raiser's range and ahead of the reraiser's range. [/ QUOTE ]
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#13
09-24-2007, 11:45 AM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] No. Best case we are facing AQ and the other guy folds. So shove. [/ QUOTE ] lol... [/ QUOTE ] You are not going to get a fold, but you are way ahead of the raiser's range and ahead of the reraiser's range. [/ QUOTE ] Sigh...I thought this was live and people were super nitty and capable of putting somone on AA and folding despite getting rediculous odds. Anyhow, it is still the best case scenario...whether it is likely to happen or not. But as you (Betgo) said, it doesn't matter. We are ahead of both ranges.
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#14
09-24-2007, 11:47 AM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
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I am nowhere near the money. Blinds go up every 20 minutes. I shoved all-in and MP called for the extra 3750. When I flipped over my hand MP and another player not in the hand said that I should have folded. I conversed with them a bit about my rational for shoving but they would have none of it. I'm glad you guys agree with my action. BTW, EP had QQ and MP had AKo. QQ ended up winning the main pot and we chopped the side. I did have 4 hearts on the turn but could not river that last heart which would have given me a nice stack. [/ QUOTE ] Just noticed you posted results... sorry.
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#15
09-24-2007, 11:50 AM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
Less than 20 BB, on the button...clear shove. EP was desperate and MP even though solid could of been isolating with a lot less than AKs which he was, you have to play the numbers here and you did. Good job.
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#16
09-24-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
What were the other stack sizes at the table? The bet of 8000 is a bit wierd, and the other stacks to act behind shine a bit of light on this.
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#17
09-24-2007, 12:16 PM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
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You’re stack is big enough to steal even at the next level. I don’t see why you need to play this. Sure the first shover can have a wide range, but even LAG’s aren’t suicidal this short. Best case scenario we are racing with either an ace or king being in the shovers hand. Worse case is obv. No I was in NY last night. [/ QUOTE ] Folding here is really really really really bad.
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#18
09-24-2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
Ummmm:
LAG pushes with 4000 left, 300/600? I mean, 88+; AQo; AJs+ [I'm being a little conservative]. MP reraises with 8000 left and 5000 now in the pot: JJ+; AK. You are putting 12,000 to win 17,000. You need to win like 41% of the time. you are sharing an A with somebody a good chunk of the time. If I can steal the blinds a lot because they suck or the table in general is weak, I fold here, because you're probably only getting like ~33% equity here. If I can't or if the blind structure is too fast to get some good spots, then I get it AI. Barry
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#19
09-24-2007, 12:32 PM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
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Ummmm: LAG pushes with 4000 left, 300/600? I mean, 88+; AQo; AJs+ [I'm being a little conservative]. MP reraises with 8000 left and 5000 now in the pot: JJ+; AK. You are putting 12,000 to win 17,000. You need to win like 41% of the time. you are sharing an A with somebody a good chunk of the time. If I can steal the blinds a lot because they suck or the table in general is weak, I fold here, because you're probably only getting like ~33% equity here. If I can't or if the blind structure is too fast to get some good spots, then I get it AI. Barry [/ QUOTE ] Both of your ranges are WAY to small. LAG pushes for 4K is something like. A8o+KJo+QJs+JTs+44+ MP re-raises is something like. AJs+88+
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#20
09-24-2007, 12:45 PM
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Re: Live $100 Is AKs good considering action in front?
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[ QUOTE ] Ummmm: LAG pushes with 4000 left, 300/600? I mean, 88+; AQo; AJs+ [I'm being a little conservative]. MP reraises with 8000 left and 5000 now in the pot: JJ+; AK. You are putting 12,000 to win 17,000. You need to win like 41% of the time. you are sharing an A with somebody a good chunk of the time. If I can steal the blinds a lot because they suck or the table in general is weak, I fold here, because you're probably only getting like ~33% equity here. If I can't or if the blind structure is too fast to get some good spots, then I get it AI. Barry [/ QUOTE ] Both of your ranges are WAY to small. LAG pushes for 4K is something like. A8o+KJo+QJs+JTs+44+ MP re-raises is something like. AJs+88+ [/ QUOTE ] It's live, but I agree, LAG's range is wider. I'm not sure if MP's range is that wide. Barry
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