AK vs set . Is Stacks size could make me play differently ?

[King_Arthuro]

HI Guys ,

Here's a 0.25/0.5$ Hand. I have 28$ and vilain had covered me (50$).

Vilain opened UTG to 2$. From what I have seen, his range here is (55-AA, AK and probably AQs).

I called with AKs (STP seems to be good with my stack/raise).

Flop comes Ah Jh 3d , he bet 2$, I raised to 5.5$. he called.

Turn, 8c. He checked, I bet 10$ in a 15$ pot. I had 10$ left and he moved all in. I had an obv call and lost to a set of J !

Here are my questions from a stack size point of view .

> Do you think with my stack size I had to check this turn ? As a flush draw should not be (frequently) in his range. And called a relative not too high bet on the end ?

> If I had a full or deep stack, should I have check as above , or bet/fold to an all in move ?

Thx

[[Phill]]

If he opens 55 UTG, AQs isnt "probably" in his range. Id also assume he opens more junk that that too if he opens 55+.

Dunno what STP means, but yeah, id often call here.

Pot is around 4.75 on flop, when he best 2, raise to at least 6. I prefer 6.5 cos i like the 50c chip.

Go all in on bigger turn pot as produced from previous step.

As played, 100% fine, though i would shove the 20 on the turn instead of betting 10 into 15 (pretty much irrelivent though, the final 10 should go into that pot whatever villain does)

With a bigger stack you should be more willing to check the turn for pot control. This isnt a tourney, youre not afraid to go broke and there is a lot out there that you beat and can be drawing against you - plus the pot is 15 to your 20 stack.

As it is you had a 50BB stack with top top against a LAG player. I dont hate going broke here at all.

[King_Arthuro]

STP = Stack to pot ratio (from NL pro vol 1).

Thx for answer.

[Albert Moulton]

1) Buy in for more, or buy in for less. If you have less, then push preflop. If you have more, then reraise preflop.

2) What do you beat that calls your raise over the cb? Probably just AQ, and some oddly played flush draws. You may want to risk a free card and check behind on the turn in order to avoid getting stack-a-donked by a CRAI on the turn by a better hand. Then you can call a river bet and see a showdown with what may or may not be the best hand.

3) Once you bet the turn and he moves in for $10 more, a call is probably worthwhile if you think he might show up with less than AJ as little as ~20% of the time.

4) With a full stack, you should reraise preflop. The hand plays out differently if you reraised preflop. Hopefully, he'd show his strength early enough for you to get away with some of your stack intact, but maybe not. The difference would be that he would have had to pay more to flop his set. And if he didn't flop his set, he'd more likely fold to a cb on any flop with an A, K, or Q on it, and maybe even to a cb on a flop of all low cards.

[[Phill]]

Ive got NL Pro, havent read it yet. Its on my list of things to do this week.

As a former tourney player, i remember when 'M' started doing the rounds [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] lol.

[Albert Moulton]

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STP = Stack to pot ratio (from NL pro vol 1).

Thx for answer.

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I think it's usually referred to as SPR.

[King_Arthuro]

I m really thinking about how much to buy in ?

I played 12 tables at the same time.

I m testing a 60BB buy in order to avoid some difficult river/turn decisions based mostly on what I know from a player and that "what" is not very high multi tabling lol.
There s another reason : often donks do not have full stacks.

On the other side I cant be feared by others full stacks and pulled some nice bluffs. But, without nice reads nice bluffs turn often in suicide bluffs [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Any thoughts ?

[Chargers In 07]

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Any thoughts ?

[/ QUOTE ] Buying in for 60bbs is actually going to play worse than 20bbs or 100bbs.

[King_Arthuro]

^^

So I m gonna stop my test and buy in for full [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Albert Moulton]

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Any thoughts ?

[/ QUOTE ] Buying in for 60bbs is actually going to play worse than 20bbs or 100bbs.

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I believe this is true. 20bb lets you play a short stack strategy that is hard for most full stack opponents to exploit unless they're willing to gamble more than they're used to.

100bb gives you more room to get away when behind, and more implied odds to win bigger pots when you're ahead.

I really think 50-60bb buy-ins would usually be tougher to play than 20bb or 100bb buy-ins.

Anybody else have any thoughts on buy-in amounts and how that might have effected the hand in the OP?

In any event, I suspect that 3-betting preflop would probably have been better even with the medium size stack that you had.