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400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
Hand1. villian is unknown my image is semilag. My reasoing was that too often he has a set or weird twopair here. Just push the turn and represent the overpair ?
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $761.10 Hero (BB): $463.00 UTG: $521.30 CO: $109.75 BTN: $539.90 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players) 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $14.00</font>, SB calls $12.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $56.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $42.00 Flop: ($126) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $95.00</font>, SB calls $95.00 Turn: ($316) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, Hero checks River: ($316) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $316.00</font>, Hero folds Uncalled bet of $316.00 returned to SB Pot Size: $316.00 ($3 Rake) Hand 2. I think the river bet is def +ev since a K suits perfectly my range. The question is should i fire the turn again against an unknown since he most likeley holds a midpair ? My reasoning was that my hand is too good to get raised out of the pot on the turn Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $268.15 BB: $442.80 UTG: $370.00 MP: $509.00 Hero (CO): $392.00 BTN: $511.10 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG calls $4.00, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.00</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $14.00 Flop: ($42) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $31.00</font>, UTG calls $31.00 Turn: ($104) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) UTG checks, Hero checks River: ($104) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $82.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $321.00</font>, Hero folds Uncalled bet of $239.00 returned to UTG Pot Size: $268.00 ($3 Rake) Hand 3. Villian is tag. i played it safe but i wonder if bet or even check/ raise turn is better since it is really putting the pressure on him for all his chips. Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) Hero (SB): $670.40 BB: $515.50 UTG: $482.00 CO: $284.20 BTN: $889.30 Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players) UTG folds, CO calls $4.00, <font color="red">BTN raises to $20.00</font>, Hero calls $18.00, 2 folds Flop: ($48) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $32.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $64.00</font>, BTN calls $32.00 Turn: ($176) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $132.00</font>, Hero folds Uncalled bet of $132.00 returned to BTN Pot Size: $176.00 ($3 Rake) |
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Re: 400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
1: std
2: i fire, you have alot of equity which makes up for lack of FE (dont like river, too bluffy) 3: flop raise sucks |
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Re: 400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
in hand 3 u just call and check/fold the turn ? seems too weak to me
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Re: 400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
More comments pls
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Re: 400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
Hand 1: not a good spot for a 2barrel imo. Given his line so far, I doubt he's folding much of his range on this blank turn.
Hand 2: 2barrel here is probably good. I think you get a fold from a better hand often enough, and I doubt that you're going to get checkraised in this spot very often. You'll also be occasionally building a pot against a stubborn, worse flushdraw, or a good jack that's playing it wa/wb and will pay off a reasonable bet on the river. As played, I think you'll get looked up by alot of hands when you bet the river. Hand 3: I'm not really a fan of the flop check/minraise. I would just c/c and reevaluate on the turn. |
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Re: 400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
to hand 3 i have so many time the best hand but absolutly no outs but a boatload of hands that scare me on the turn ?
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Re: 400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
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in hand 3 u just call and check/fold the turn ? seems too weak to me [/ QUOTE ] so you're saying that c/minraising and giving up on turn is better? As for the first 2, hand 1 is good, and hand 2 I'd fire the turn again almost always. |
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Re: 400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
what does he do when he isholding just overcards, which means possible 12% to hit and very bad implied odds.
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Re: 400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
1. 2 barrel is bad for many reasons. Two reasons not to fire: two flush draws out, QJ has few outs (compared to AK, KQ,AQ) vs potential overpairs.
2. fire turn, push him off weak pairs. Him c/r:ing is unlikely. If he is really really weak tight post flop bet the K 3. As far as standard play goes -> check/call and reevaluate turn. Under the right conditions a min c/r might work out for you. Stupid to pull big bluffs with very few outs imo. |
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Re: 400 getting the timing right for the second barrel
1 its fine.
2 I bet turn here and if it goes check check probably not river sins its just such a bluffcard that most hands will call anyway 3 dont like it. I checkriase larger. |
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