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Old 09-23-2007, 07:34 PM
Traumfabrik Traumfabrik is offline
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Default 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

Pls give an explaination for your answers, i cannot learn alot if u only write " fold turn" [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] thanks in advance
Hand1. No reads on the villian. In retrospective this is an easy push for me. Anyone disagree?
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $410.60
Hero (BB): $605.90
UTG: $685.95
MP: $364.60
CO: $200.00
BTN: $767.90

CO posts $4.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN raises to $19.90</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $55.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $35.10

Flop: ($116) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $55.50</font>, Hero calls $55.50

Turn: ($227) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $199.90</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $199.90 returned to BTN

Pot Size: $227.00 ($3 Rake)



Hand 2. VIllian has tight stats, my reasoning is that sometimes i am way way ahead and even if he has the K i have some outs. These two things combined warranted a call imho. Let me hear your oppionion

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $493.80
BB: $380.00
UTG: $272.70
MP: $603.00
CO: $160.00
BTN: $426.50

CO posts $4.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN raises to $18.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $56.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $38.00

Flop: ($120) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $89.00</font>, BTN calls $89.00

Turn: ($298) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $188.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $348.80</font>, BTN calls all-in for $93.50
Uncalled bet of $67.30 returned to Hero

River: ($861) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $861.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:38 PM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

Hand 1 is siiick weak... i c/rai on turn as played
Hand 2... meh... VERY close. RELE sick close but I probably play it the same. Maybe bet weakish to induce someone making a play, but either way, I don't see any way to fold postflop.
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:40 PM
13_Xerxes 13_Xerxes is offline
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Default Re: 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

CRAI the first. If he got AA, AK or 99, it's a cooler, and you got outs.

2nd, he probably got AK or KQ, but I don't fold AA in RR pot, and I got some outs too. I play it the same.
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

Hand 1 is gross, c/r the turn here alllll day.

Hand 2 if he's really that tight you're never good here, but I guess it's not bad.
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:51 PM
Evigt_Drabbad Evigt_Drabbad is offline
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Default Re: 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

hand 1 i checkraise allin turn, if behind u got some outs
hand 2 i play it the same and agree with ur reasnoning
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

hand 1: bet turn for about $140-$170/checkraise allin
hand 2: I think checking here gives you more options..
- if he checks behind (slowplaying kings) you can control
the pot, and you can checkall the river -&gt; loosing less to kings, and winning against bluff
- if he bets you can still checkraise him, getting some value from QdQx kind of hands.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

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CRAI the first. If he got AA, AK or 99, it's a cooler, and you got outs.

2nd, he probably got AK or KQ, but I don't fold AA in RR pot, and I got some outs too. I play it the same.

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this is horrific advice and shoudlnt be followed by anyone attempting to win at poker
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

FWIW I think hand 2 is closer to a fold than hand 1.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

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CRAI the first. If he got AA, AK or 99, it's a cooler, and you got outs.

2nd, he probably got AK or KQ, but I don't fold AA in RR pot, and I got some outs too. I play it the same.

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this is horrific advice and shoudlnt be followed by anyone attempting to win at poker

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ttgirl, I constantly see you bash others' attempts at giving advice...funny thing is...where is your advice?

Anyways...

Hand 1: I don't know why you didn't lead the flop/turn after RRing pre? Your post flop line looks like KK/QQ so if I were villain I am VALUE betting AJ/AT here all day. If he has AK, you have a 12 outer, get it IN there.

Hand 2: I probably pot the flop and still bet the turn, but as played to the turn, I j call when the 2nd K falls. Hopefully he slows down on river thinking you may have AK and scared of the flush. Of course, if a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A, or K comes, thunder.
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: 400 ,put to the test for all my chips. help me out

If you bet the turn on the 2nd hand, only better hand calls, i think there is no reason for betting.
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