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#11
09-23-2007, 07:03 PM
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Re: Do you like a river shove here. line check....
I'm firing a CBET every time I 3bet preflop, even if I hold AQ. As played DONT get fancy with JJ, extracting value is just too tricky.
On river your only being called by a better hand. If unsure bet 2/3rds. 
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#13
09-23-2007, 07:20 PM
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Re: Do you like a river shove here. line check....
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horrible shove imo . U r chasing worse hands that u could have get some value from and u only gonna get call by better hand. b/f 70 Don t mind the check on the flop btw . [/ QUOTE ] so you think 18/15 would call a 3bet with 77,99,TT OOP and not play it for pure set value and pay off on the river? I think it's very unlikely but I might be wrong.
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#14
09-23-2007, 07:20 PM
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Re: Do you like a river shove here. line check....
The majority seems to hate it, which doesnt suprise me. I think yegon mentioned it, but part of my reason for shoving was that i thought he could end up w AA or KK some times, which i am hoping this player will fold to a shove. I dont know if thats wishing for too much, with most players it is, but i considered him compitent. I dont like it so much after thinkin about it, alittle to fancy for 1/2 but if he calls with TT or folds AA KK i feel like a genious.
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#15
09-23-2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: Do you like a river shove here. line check....
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I'm firing a CBET every time I 3bet preflop, even if I hold AQ. As played DONT get fancy with JJ, extracting value is just too tricky. On river your only being called by a better hand. If unsure bet 2/3rds. [/ QUOTE ] I think alot of people would agree that c betting anytime you 3b is a mistake, and exploitable. I think roughly 40 percent we prob should be checking. THats a very debatable number, but the point is its a huge leak to be cbetting every 3b pot.
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#17
09-23-2007, 07:34 PM
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Re: Do you like a river shove here. line check....
agreed
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#18
09-23-2007, 07:34 PM
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Re: Do you like a river shove here. line check....
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[ QUOTE ] I'm firing a CBET every time I 3bet preflop, even if I hold AQ. As played DONT get fancy with JJ, extracting value is just too tricky. On river your only being called by a better hand. If unsure bet 2/3rds. [/ QUOTE ] I think alot of people would agree that c betting anytime you 3b is a mistake, and exploitable. I think roughly 40 percent we prob should be checking. THats a very debatable number, but the point is its a huge leak to be cbetting every 3b pot. [/ QUOTE ] do you have any links to some theory posts where I might read about this? I'd like to learn more about these situations. I can't think about a reason not to cbet a 3bet pot on the flop IP when checked to, especially at small stakes where you do not play many 3bet pots and the chance that your opponent will spot this tendecy and be able to exploit it is soooo small IMO.
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#20
09-23-2007, 07:42 PM
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Re: Do you like a river shove here. line check....
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm firing a CBET every time I 3bet preflop, even if I hold AQ. As played DONT get fancy with JJ, extracting value is just too tricky. On river your only being called by a better hand. If unsure bet 2/3rds. [/ QUOTE ] I think alot of people would agree that c betting anytime you 3b is a mistake, and exploitable. I think roughly 40 percent we prob should be checking. THats a very debatable number, but the point is its a huge leak to be cbetting every 3b pot. [/ QUOTE ] do you have any links to some theory posts where I might read about this? I'd like to learn more about these situations. I can't think about a reason not to cbet a 3bet pot on the flop IP when checked to, especially at small stakes where you do not play many 3bet pots and the chance that your opponent will spot this tendecy and be able to exploit it is soooo small IMO. [/ QUOTE ] I dont think its a matter so much of a player actually deciding to exploit you, i think its more of a mathematical thing, where vs some players on various flops, their range isnt going to be wide enough to make a cbet with air profitable for us. I think that if we are not aware of when those situations arise, we are going to be spewing alot. I feel like some people dont realize it is okay to check fold in 3b pots....
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