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Old 09-23-2007, 11:29 AM
MrG MrG is offline
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

I got Minn +2.5(+6) and Balt -8.0(+6) 110 to win 100.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

09/23/2007 @ 10:00 AM [401] MINNESOTA +7½-110 (B+6) - NFL
09/23/2007 @ 10:00 AM [410] PITTSBURGH -2½-110 (B+6) - NFL
09/23/2007 @ 10:00 AM [412] BALTIMORE -1½-110 (B+6) - NFL

got these at the beginning of the week-gl
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

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Not wongs, therefore -EV, but GL.

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Just because one specific teaser ticket isn't a basic strategy teaser (i.e. Wong teaser) doesn't mean it is -EV.

Daliman, are you saying this specific wager is -EV strickly because it isn't teasing though 3 and 7? Or, have you handicapped the game and lines and concluded, based on your work, that it is -EV?
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

I think he's saying that if you have a specific lean on those games you should just bet them straight up. Teasers in general are -EV.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

Okaleedokalee, I'm going with some -EV Non-Wong teasers. RR'ing these 5 games:

Colts -7 -> -1
Ravens -7.5 -> -1.5
Steelers -10 -> -4
Patriots -17 -> -11
Chargers -6 -> 0

Flame away. Good thing is by 4 I'll either be down 10 units or up 10 (or somewhere in between)
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:30 PM
TomCowley TomCowley is offline
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

How do you possibly think the pats game ends up on 12, 13, 14, 15, or 16 20+% of the time?
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:35 PM
McFadden McFadden is offline
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

I don't know but I think 13 and especially 14 are very possible margins of victory.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:53 PM
TomCowley TomCowley is offline
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

Sure, but if you straight bet 16.5, you have to cover 52% of the time. Teasing to 11 (really only a 5.5 tease too), you have to cover 71-72% of the time, which means you have to hit the 12-16 20% of the time. If you think that's going to happen, find somebody to prop-bet the 13 and 14 exactly at 10:1.
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Old 09-23-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

Buffalo/New England starts in 5 mins... There's no time to be bothered with this numbers mumbo jumbo. Patriots -11 gogogogogog!
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Old 09-23-2007, 02:15 PM
Daliman Daliman is offline
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Default Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux; Week 3

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Not wongs, therefore -EV, but GL.

[/ QUOTE ]

Just because one specific teaser ticket isn't a basic strategy teaser (i.e. Wong teaser) doesn't mean it is -EV.

Daliman, are you saying this specific wager is -EV strickly because it isn't teasing though 3 and 7? Or, have you handicapped the game and lines and concluded, based on your work, that it is -EV?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. And yes.
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