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Old 09-22-2007, 09:32 AM
Jailblazers Jailblazers is offline
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Default Should I go into call down mode here?

PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $0.02.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, MP folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero ?.

I have no reads on villain. I believe my image is weak-tight because I have folded probably the last 20 flop and turns I've seen after flopping 2nd pair or worse and not getting odds with my draws etc. Is this a time to go into call-down mode because there is a good chance villain is exploiting my weak-tight play and doing this with a low PP or ace-high. No?

Edit: Also, I forgot to look at the fact that there were other players in the pot. However, once they folded he could be doing this with a flush draw?
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:47 AM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: Should I go into call down mode here?

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I have no reads on villain. I believe my image is weak-tight because I have folded probably the last 20 flop and turns I've seen after flopping 2nd pair or worse and not getting odds with my draws etc. Is this a time to go into call-down mode because there is a good chance villain is exploiting my weak-tight play and doing this with a low PP or ace-high. No?

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Here I think ur thinking is very good. And calling down is probably best.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Should I go into call down mode here?

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I have no reads on villain. I believe my image is weak-tight because I have folded probably the last 20 flop and turns I've seen after flopping 2nd pair or worse and not getting odds with my draws etc. Is this a time to go into call-down mode because there is a good chance villain is exploiting my weak-tight play and doing this with a low PP or ace-high. No?

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Here I think ur thinking is very good. And calling down is probably best.

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Wait, are you sure a call-down is best? Should I not be worried that he bet out into a four-way pot? I forgot to mention it in the first post.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: Should I go into call down mode here?

If you call the flop here you are going into call down mode. You are slightly ahead or way behind here, you essentially are drawing to 4 outs if you are behind. I prefer to find out and go for the reraising of the flop. If he still doesn't believe you have him beat and 3 bets you then call down and fold to a spade.

You have no friggin image. Don't bet because of your image. Look at my past posts to see the crap that was dumped on me when I said the same thing.

Read your opponents but don't assume they read you. Trust me after 140k hands at micro, I get the message finally.

FPS is a huge mistake at this level. Be wary of it.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Should I go into call down mode here?

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You are slightly ahead or way behind here, you essentially are drawing to 4 outs if you are behind.

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Which 4 outs are that? I only see 2. Am I blind?
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:29 PM
Smurph64 Smurph64 is offline
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Default Re: Should I go into call down mode here?

No I am blind there are 2 outs. K greater than 10 not less than. Brain farted again.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Should I go into call down mode here?

Thx. I appreciate the insight.
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Should I go into call down mode here?

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PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (5 handed)

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I believe my image is weak-tight

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You don't have an image at .02/.04 limit hold'em, I don't care if you folded the last 100 hands.

You are beat, the guy called a raise in the SB and donk bets this flop. I think about 95% of the time he has a 4 or K, the other 5% he has a Ax of spades.
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Should I go into call down mode here?

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PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (5 handed)

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I believe my image is weak-tight

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You don't have an image at .02/.04 limit hold'em, I don't care if you folded the last 100 hands.

You are beat, the guy called a raise in the SB and donk bets this flop. I think about 95% of the time he has a 4 or K, the other 5% he has a Ax of spades.

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Not true

Fish donk A high and 22, 33 and 55-99 more than enough for hero to call down here.
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Should I go into call down mode here?

Grunch....Only. Do not use as actual advice. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

I fold here to overcard and flush draw.

Now I will read the post and see how wrong I am.
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