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Old 09-21-2007, 09:38 PM
Mench Mench is offline
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Default Re: FOld a SET!??! Nl400

limp and min raise is so often AA it makes me lol. getting it in can never be that awful as you get shown random stuff so much.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:38 PM
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yea im thinking thou, what if this was 200 BB deep instead of 100 should we call then too..
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:44 PM
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never fold here. ever
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:47 PM
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If button really is decent he would never have a set here, so I don't see how you can fold.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:44 PM
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i think ypu can make a big laydown here
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:53 PM
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If button really is decent he would never have a set here, so I don't see how you can fold.

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Yea, I'm much more worried about UTG here obviously because button has a drawing hand like always here, but I just can't see UTG coming over our 4 bet without a set here if he's remotely decent (which apparently he isn't). Obv if he's a donk you can't really fold here for pretty obvious reasons.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:31 PM
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I don't think people should be so dismissive. I don't like to go autobroke with bottom set in an unraised pot at a full ring table either. However on a drawy flop and with the action the way it played out I don't think we can fold in this spot.

As played I would only fear the set from the UTG player.

Assuming the other players are decent:
-The 1st guy who cold calls the min raise player isn't gonna be flat calling a min raise with a set on a board that drawy knowing there will be 3 players minimum on the turn.
-The other guy is definitely not overcalling the min raise with a set looking to go 4 to the turn.
-If they are not decent then their range is widened to include all sorts of Jx hands aswell as draws anyway so we can't specifically fear a set.

So if we had a read on UTG+3 as a 10/2 set mining nit who isnt limping in EP with suited unpaired cards we could fold putting him squarely on 66 or JJ. If however he seems donkish I think we have to get it in.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:36 AM
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yea i realised this after i made that dumb fold.
usually when some1 rasies and there is a reraise ive seen players (average greedy players) flat call with sets and i dunno why but i was looking for a reason to fold i guess

I was 100% sure i was ahead of UTG guys range thou. i just gave toooo much credit to the Over over call on the button. i should have realised that for HIM to have 6s he would HAVE to have reraised on the flop.

gah i hate overthinking things at nl400 i need to write a note above my PC screen that ABC still works ...
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