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Old 09-21-2007, 10:56 PM
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The A's won't likely pick up Bonds.

They generally draft good players and develop them for 5 years, then see them leave to ridiculous amounts of monies.
ex. Giambi, McGuire

The book "Moneyball" explains all of this. Its extremely interesting as it explains how a team like Oakland with the second lowest payroll in the MLB can compete every year.

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I don't really know how to explain why, but this post is hilarious.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:56 PM
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The A's won't likely pick up Bonds.

They generally draft good players and develop them for 5 years, then see them leave to ridiculous amounts of monies.
ex. Giambi, McGuire

The book "Moneyball" explains all of this. Its extremely interesting as it explains how a team like Oakland with the second lowest payroll in the MLB can compete every year.

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Greatest SE level ever?
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:57 PM
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The A's won't likely pick up Bonds.

They generally draft good players and develop them for 5 years, then see them leave to ridiculous amounts of monies.
ex. Giambi, McGuire

The book "Moneyball" explains all of this. Its extremely interesting as it explains how a team like Oakland with the second lowest payroll in the MLB can compete every year.

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Greatest SE level ever?

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i hope
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:57 PM
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Any fan of an AL team that say's they don't want Barry is
a) dumb
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b) are not really baseball fans

His line next year as a DH will be amazing.

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I am a Twins fan. I want Bonds. I do not want what we would have to do to get Bonds.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:58 PM
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I figure that the only teams that would be interested in him would be AL teams.

Minny will probably be clearing out a lot of space since they won't be able to resign players like Johan Santana. So, they might have some room for Bonds.

I think Oakland and Seattle could make a move for him too.

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Santana is still under contract next year. They aren't going to trade Santana in order to free up room to sign Bonds. As much as I love Bonds, this would be a ridiculously stupid move and 180 degrees from the MO of the organization for the last 8 or 9 years. I mean, Ryan is gone, but I don't think running the team into the ground just to spite him is really a legit business model.

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Barry Bonds would add more value to the Twins offense, than the last like 6yrs of DH play combined, its likely too pricey, but something I'd love to see happen
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:59 PM
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its painfully obvious, Bonds is going to the AL to DH, best guess is Anaheim, followed by Yanks, Red Sox.

He wants a ring, those are the best candidates in the AL. Ship it and yawn!
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:03 PM
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how a team like Oakland with the second lowest payroll in the MLB

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21st last year, I believe 19th this year

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The Book refers mostly to how the changed management and front office styles (mostly scouting), in order to compete. At the time they had the second lowest payroll. The Book is more about a huge change in baseball scouting and player development in the 80s than current information.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:04 PM
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how a team like Oakland with the second lowest payroll in the MLB

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21st last year, I believe 19th this year

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The Book refers mostly to how the changed management and front office styles (mostly scouting), in order to compete. At the time they had the second lowest payroll. The Book is more about a huge change in baseball scouting and player development in the 80s than current information.

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Does the book say anything about the relative importance of things like base-stealing and walks?

EDIT: If it is a level, capitalizing The Book is excellent.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:07 PM
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how a team like Oakland with the second lowest payroll in the MLB

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21st last year, I believe 19th this year

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The Book refers mostly to how the changed management and front office styles (mostly scouting), in order to compete. At the time they had the second lowest payroll. The Book is more about a huge change in baseball scouting and player development in the 80s than current information.

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Does the book say anything about the relative importance of things like base-stealing and walks?

EDIT: If it is a level, capitalizing The Book is excellent.

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Yeah.. it tells about how Oakland told their scouts to stop looking at the guys who will obviously make huge money due to hi batting percentage and home runs and such. They started to look at on base percentage mostly (so walks were huge) and started to build a team around OBP.

They would sign guys nobody even looked at because they were short fat catchers who hit a medium amount of home runs with a mediocre batting average, but with a [censored] load of walks.

and yes..... i meant to do that......
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:07 PM
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How much will he cost? I'll start the guessing at $20M for 2 years.
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