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Old 09-20-2007, 05:41 PM
Turlock Turlock is offline
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Default In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed)
BB (t6645)
Hero (t5320)
SB (t3035)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t2000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t800.

Flop: (t4025) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1010 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???

This was only a $3 Turbo and I did call but I thought I'd better check as the call was quite a large % of my stack.
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:45 PM
kleath kleath is offline
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Default Re: In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

Don't fold, you might as well get it in pre though.
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

Pretty easy call. If you just figure the 4 gutshot outs are good, you're getting odds (gutshot is something like 22% to come in by the river).

Edit: oh, and like was said above, there's no point in waiting until the flop. You're pot committed regardless. Just shove the rest in preflop.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:32 PM
PimpKid1 PimpKid1 is offline
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Default Re: In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

Shove preflop, when raised by a smaller stack in this situation make it easier on yourself and shove all in preflop. You are correct with the 5-1, you are getting the right odds to call here.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

Shove preflop when they have 12 BB`s or less left.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:01 PM
Turlock Turlock is offline
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Default Re: In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

I would have shoved into the SB but BB has over 14 BB,and after my raise I still have over 10BB and can fold to a shove,can't I,or am I mistaken?

Thanks for your help
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

I'd probably call this getting as little as 2.5:1.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

What did you think was going to happen when you called preflop?

What was your plan when you made the standard raise?

Call, because you should have been commited to play for stacks with the SB from the moment you raised preflop.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

[ QUOTE ]
I would have shoved into the SB but BB has over 14 BB,and after my raise I still have over 10BB and can fold to a shove,can't I,or am I mistaken?

Thanks for your help

[/ QUOTE ]

Even if you didn't shove up front, there's point in not reshoving preflop after the BB folded.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: In the money getting 5-1 with Ace high on the flop,villain all in

My bad,I forgot that the BB folded to the reraise giving me the chance to re-shove.Sorry dudes.
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