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Old 09-20-2007, 02:48 AM
dd323 dd323 is offline
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Default Re: This is such a beginner question. NL Cash

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Given that check/call, check/call kinda turns our hand face up I wonder if check/call flop and donk the turn might actually be better?

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Turn leads are more transparent, imo. You cannot handle a raise, in most cases. It also saves your opponent a 2nd barrell if he's behind, while costing you the same money when he's ahead. Turning your hand faceup is bad if it can be easily exploited. Check calling top pair is not optimal, but sometimes it's the most +EV against some opponents.

If your opponent never double barrels, then I like a turn lead (so he doesnt take a free card, and this type of opponent will never bluff raise).

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I think this is a situation where you should change it up how you play it. Lots of lines make sense here. Abreu, just to address what you said, I think think turn leads and flop leads should be done as bluffs, with medium strength hands, and with strong hands OOP. I like leading into villians early in a match to see how they are likely to respond if you donk into them, so that I can figure out how to use this later.
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