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Old 09-20-2007, 02:15 AM
reemas reemas is offline
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Default smooth vs cold call

whats the difference between the two terms?
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:20 AM
Yossarian147 Yossarian147 is offline
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Default Re: smooth vs cold call

Smooth calling is calling a raise when you have a decent chance to have the best hand and want to punish an early player's aggression. Cold calling is when fish call my under the gun raise with KT offsuit.
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: smooth vs cold call

Smoothcalling is when you have a monster hand but you are against an aggressive opponent who likes to bet or might have a really good second hand. Smoothcalling is an alternative to raising. You can smoothcall pf, on the flop or on the turn. There is no smoothcalling the river.

Coldcalling is when you have a speculative hand but what to see more cards. It is a play preflop where you haven't put any money in the pot but are facing a raise. It is an alternative to folding.

Both should be used sparingly. For smoothcalling, you need a really strong hand that won't puke when the next card comes and an aggressive opponent or one that can get married to a hand like an over pair or TPTK. It is also more common to do this heads up. In a multiway pot, your better play is usually to raise to build a pot with your great made hand unless you have something like top full house or quads. Sometimes you can do this with a flopped nut flush but pairing the board on the turn could be puke-worthy.

For coldcalling, you need a decent speculative hand, and again an opponent that will pay you off with an overpair or TPTK on later streets, is weak and will fold to a steal attempt or otherwise make postflop mistakes.
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: smooth vs cold call

I might be wrong but I thought a cold call was when you don't have any money yet invested, in the specific round. so you can cold call on any street. Eg. 3 players on the turn. Player A bets, Player B raises, you calling here is a cold call.

Smooth calling is when you bet and get raised. Calling here is a smooth call.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:08 PM
Carolina Pirate Carolina Pirate is offline
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Default Re: smooth vs cold call

Smooth call = call with a big trapping hand
Cold call = calls with a great drawing hand or in some cases calling to set up for a bluff on a scary board
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: smooth vs cold call

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I might be wrong but I thought a cold call was when you don't have any money yet invested, in the specific round. so you can cold call on any street. Eg. 3 players on the turn. Player A bets, Player B raises, you calling here is a cold call.

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this is correct
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: smooth vs cold call

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I might be wrong but I thought a cold call was when you don't have any money yet invested, in the specific round. so you can cold call on any street. Eg. 3 players on the turn. Player A bets, Player B raises, you calling here is a cold call.

Smooth calling is when you bet and get raised. Calling here is a smooth call.

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Cold calling is calling more than one bet in one action when you have no money yet invested in that betting round.

Smooth calling is a form of slow playing when you call in a spot where normally you would raise. It's purpose is disguising the strength of your hand.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: smooth vs cold call

Cold-call is more commonly used in limit, where it means calling multiple bets with no money invested on that street. It is rarely correct to cold-call preflop, as it is usually better to fold or to raise, and a lot of cold-calling preflop in a game is a sign of poor play. Cold-calling on the flop or turn is often more reasonable.

Smooth call is much more commonly used to describe calling a preflop raise in NL. Reraising isn't necessary to knock out the blinds since the bets are larger in relation to the pot, and it is much more dangerous to reopen the betting to the original raiser when you think you are ahead, but might not be.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:38 AM
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Cold-call is more commonly used in limit, where it means calling multiple bets with no money invested on that street. It is rarely correct to cold-call preflop, as it is usually better to fold or to raise, and a lot of cold-calling preflop in a game is a sign of poor play. Cold-calling on the flop or turn is often more reasonable.

Smooth call is much more commonly used to describe calling a preflop raise in NL. Reraising isn't necessary to knock out the blinds since the bets are larger in relation to the pot, and it is much more dangerous to reopen the betting to the original raiser when you think you are ahead, but might not be.

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I disagree with your smooth calling definition. Calling raises in NL is also cold calling as your PokerTracker stats will tell you (cold calling isn't nearly as bad a play in NL due to implied odds and your point that you don't want to reopen betting.) .

There are no stats for smooth calling in PokerTracker since it doesn't know the difference between a regular call and a smooth call. Smooth calling is definitely defined as a slow playing.
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