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Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
BB is 34/15 over 32
MP is 43/11 over 118 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($14) Hero ($90.20) MP ($19.45) Button ($11) SB ($24.85) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75. Flop: ($3.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $13</font> Ranges? Does it matter stick it in? More to follow. Ret |
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Re: Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
This is a pretty bad spot, over the 30 hands you saw had he c/r'd a lot?
If not I think I'd fold |
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Re: Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
fold, he almost surely is ahead of you at this point, very doubtful that he would check raise 2 people with nothing or a draw, especially on that board that isnt especially drawy
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Re: Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
How can there be any more to come?
If you call you're all in, if you fold then the hand is over. I would probably just shove here, too good of chance he has garbage or a draw. KQ is the worse hand I'm going with here though FWIW (I'd fold QT). |
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Re: Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
Here's the more-
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($14) Hero ($90.20) MP ($19.45) Button ($11) SB ($24.85) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75. Flop: ($3.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $13</font>, Hero calls $11, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $18.45</font> Do I have to call? WHy or why not? Ret |
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Re: Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
The first raise call seems bad. Can't think of much that you beat, and on top of that there's still MP to act. But MP's has to be a mandatory call. Only $5.45 more into into a pot that has grown to whatever $3.10 + $13 + $13 + $18.45 is.
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Re: Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
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Here's the more- PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($14) Hero ($90.20) MP ($19.45) Button ($11) SB ($24.85) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75. Flop: ($3.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $13</font>, Hero calls $11, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $18.45</font> Do I have to call? WHy or why not? Ret [/ QUOTE ] Yes. Because you called before(mistake), the board didnt change and your odds are just amazing. |
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Re: Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
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Here's the more- PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($14) Hero ($90.20) MP ($19.45) Button ($11) SB ($24.85) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75. Flop: ($3.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $13</font>, Hero calls $11, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $18.45</font> Do I have to call? WHy or why not? Ret [/ QUOTE ] Once you're here you're getting like ~10:1 so you can be wrong more than 90% of the time and still be EV+ but IMO you should never have got there. Unless of course BB was a spewing maniac and even then you've gotta love variance. |
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Re: Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
Yeah you have to call.
Though BB's line is super super strong. |
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Re: Play this flop along with me- .25 KQo TPGK
I called the first raise because I had seen him do this with 99 on a board similar to this, and with a draw earlier.
The second one I called for reasons that have been stated. I spiked a K on the turn. BB had KK. MP had QJ. I ended up losing 16ptbbs. Even with the c/r of the BB, I thought I might still be ahead. Oh well. Ret |
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