Casino Gambling Web Delivers 435 Packets to Congress

[eddytom]

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i'm not ungrateful just a little perpexled of this campaign.

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I'm a little perplexed at this statement. CGW said when they started their petition that it would be hand delivered to each member of congress. That is what this was, CGW representatives hand deliverying the petition to every member of congress. Each representative received a unique packet of papers personally addressed to them, featuring specific signatures and comments from signers in their state. Each packet was hand signed by an American voter with contact information in order to keep it from seeming 'spam-like'. It also keeps it from being 'spam' if people call and say they support the packet.

You guys are unbelievable, this will be the last time I post here, I can't believe I am spending my time defending the actions of a group who has nothing but the interests of the American people in mind. But I guess you guys can spend your time debating the real reasons why CGW would do this, instead of just saying thank you for their hard work and moving on.

[BluffTHIS!]

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You guys are unbelievable, this will be the last time I post here, I can't believe I am spending my time defending the actions of a group who has nothing but the interests of the American people in mind. But I guess you guys can spend your time debating the real reasons why CGW would do this, instead of just saying thank you for their hard work and moving on.

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Why don't you search for and read the posts of the former poster known as "nrog" (no quotes in search). You and CSW are obviously cousins of his. N00b account shows up and claims they are saving online poker and everyone here should line up to kiss your ass. Then when being a total unknown with unverifiable claims you get no cred, you act hurt and tell us to [censored] ourselves and deny us the pleasure of donating funds to your organization (ask the guys here or on P5s who got scammed into donating to nrog whether they still think they were suckers or not).

So Cya and good riddance. If you're not a scam then you are just a representative of a narrow interest in online gaming that isn't much in accord with our interests (because the cause of poker gets hurt in current political enviro by *any* association with sports betting or casino interests).

[Tuff_Fish]

Holy Moses!

I read the OP and saw absolutely nothing wrong. I reread it and still see little to complain about.

Some of you just want to pi$$ on the boots of anyone who is not of your exact mindset.

If you don't like the way someone is doing things, DO IT YOURSELF, and do it better.

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Tuff

ps I didn't read the links, just the OP. Still haven't read the links and still don't see anything wrong.

[MiltonFriedman]

"I can't believe I am spending my time defending the actions of a group who has nothing but the interests of the American people in mind. "

Okay, sorry. I had thought you might be realistic enough to understand that you need to bring facts, not hype here if you want serious assistance or credibility.

However, CWG has "nothing but the interests of the American people in mind". Good for them. I otherwise might have thought they had web-based gambling entities interests in mind. (THAT would have been a welcome message, go forth and do good.)

[MiltonFriedman]

The only thing "wrong" was the complete lack of any substance and a puffed out reliance upon "Gee-whiz, everybody says it is a strong move". He later posted something more, explaining what this "package" was, which I thought was pretty good.

Tuff, you took the bull by the horns in California. Good for you. What this OP did was ask for support of something without any facts about what this "Initiative" was. He did not say, hey support Frank Bill or the Wexler Bill, but instead "Support what CGW did", without bothering to explain what it was.

[whangarei]

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Holy Moses!

I read the OP and saw absolutely nothing wrong. I reread it and still see little to complain about.

Some of you just want to pi$$ on the boots of anyone who is not of your exact mindset.

If you don't like the way someone is doing things, DO IT YOURSELF, and do it better.



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For once I agree with you Tuff.

[Merkle]

I have been following this forum daily (actually several times a day) for months now. Yet I am disappointed at the reception of what to me appears positive action and actual initiative. I thought the link he pasted explained quite adequately what was delivered and who too. The request for the poker community to "follow up" their hand delivery with phone calls was not unreasonable and is very sensible. It isn't like they said "please send your entire wallet or signed blank checks to ABC for promoting online gaming".

His request should have been incorporated into TE's weekly action plan. Just like many of us did follow up calls and letters to NFL and their sponsers when the issue was hot. When you couple this physical approach to the congressman with the timely articles about WTO last week, then yes, it is a good time for follow up calls and extra effort to remind them we are watching and we do care.

If I want to build a fence to enclose my pool and my neighbor approaches me about sharing the costs of a fence to enclose his dog. Should I refuse his offer because we don'thave the same reason??

[BluffTHIS!]

Merkle,

The problem is that the interests of legalizing poker are harmed very much by allying ourselves to online sports betting and/or casino interests. So even if this initiative is legit, it still amounts to asking poker to make such an alliance, where poker gains *nothing* and instead *is harmed*. If you have been reading this forum for long enough, you would know this.

I want to note as I have before, that I do not oppose those forms of gambling, and in fact *after* poker were legalized fully and openly online would give my backing to it. It is just that we cannot in the current political environment put the sports/casino gaming albatross around our collective necks lest we DOOM our cause.

[TheEngineer]

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I have been following this forum daily (actually several times a day) for months now. Yet I am disappointed at the reception of what to me appears positive action and actual initiative. I thought the link he pasted explained quite adequately what was delivered and who too. The request for the poker community to "follow up" their hand delivery with phone calls was not unreasonable and is very sensible. It isn't like they said "please send your entire wallet or signed blank checks to ABC for promoting online gaming".

His request should have been incorporated into TE's weekly action plan. Just like many of us did follow up calls and letters to NFL and their sponsers when the issue was hot. When you couple this physical approach to the congressman with the timely articles about WTO last week, then yes, it is a good time for follow up calls and extra effort to remind them we are watching and we do care.

If I want to build a fence to enclose my pool and my neighbor approaches me about sharing the costs of a fence to enclose his dog. Should I refuse his offer because we don'thave the same reason??

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His initial request WAS part of my action thread, for some time. Not only that....I x-posted it to all the threads on 2p2. The requested follow-on action will also be part of the next update.

If you all don't recall, this is that e-petition we all signed in response to a FoF action warning about this very delivery. CGW promised to hand-deliver the packets to each member of Congress both here and at www.casinogamingweb.com , so I imagine he didn't think he had to describe it all over again.

Eddietom, I'd like you thank you and CGW for delivering these packets. The timing is perfect, as we'll be going to Washington ourselves in a few weeks.

[TheEngineer]

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Merkle,

The problem is that the interests of legalizing poker are harmed very much by allying ourselves to online sports betting and/or casino interests. So even if this initiative is legit, it still amounts to asking poker to make such an alliance, where poker gains *nothing* and instead *is harmed*. If you have been reading this forum for long enough, you would know this.

I want to note as I have before, that I do not oppose those forms of gambling, and in fact *after* poker were legalized fully and openly online would give my backing to it. It is just that we cannot in the current political environment put the sports/casino gaming albatross around our collective necks lest we DOOM our cause.

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I disagree. While I agree our fight should be freestanding, how do others arguing against Internet gaming harm us? I welcome anyone who hates UIGEA to the fight.