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Old 09-19-2007, 09:42 AM
Fingerswinger Fingerswinger is offline
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Default SB vs. BB: i get check-raised on KKT flop with bottom pair (200NL)

villain is 65/35/2.8 (20 hands)

this is a hand from my video

i've already been told that the preflop raise is bad against this guy with such a garbage hand.

but now what on the flop? can i get away from it? what hands would he play like this?

what if turn was 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?


Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $200
CO: $283.90
Button: $200
SB: $287.20
Hero: $238

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($14, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $36</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($86, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $54</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:47 AM
Sorcerer808 Sorcerer808 is offline
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Default Re: SB vs. BB: i get check-raised on KKT flop with bottom pair (200NL)

Fold flop, if he's bluffing he wont stop and if he's valuebetting he wont stop. I usually wait for the goods to play back at these guys. Even if the turn was a deuce, he's gonna pot the river.

This kind of hand implies way too much variance to be in my game.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:04 AM
oli1980 oli1980 is offline
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Default Re: SB vs. BB: i get check-raised on KKT flop with bottom pair (200NL)

Fold flop. Even if he has a T you are propably outkicked.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:45 AM
Fingerswinger Fingerswinger is offline
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Default Re: SB vs. BB: i get check-raised on KKT flop with bottom pair (200NL)

i agree that if he has a hand, my T6 is probably no good. but what range do you put him on?

for me this looks so much like a straight draw. obv then the J on the turn is bad.
i think my hand sucks because there are so many cards that are likely to help him that i can't really continute most of the times. the only way would be to "be sure" he has only a draw and shove the flop. but i don't have the balls for that without a strong read and even if i'm right i'm only a very small favorite - but dead money and foldequity would make it +EV.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: SB vs. BB: i get check-raised on KKT flop with bottom pair (200NL)

The problem is that he DOESNT always have a draw...
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