PLO200: OK to go broke with middle set?

[Kristian]

I am new to Omaha, so go easy on me. Is this ok? If not, what should I have done? I had no reads.

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $4</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($24, 6 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $22.8</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $91.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $172.05</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $54.2</font>.
Uncalled bets: $49.45 returned to SB.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($314.8, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $314.8)


River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($314.8, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $314.8)


Results:
Final pot: $314.8

[Bogglor]

Your line is fine, though I'd raise preflop. Standard hand, unlucky result.

[chucky]

enter with raise preflop. Flop is standard.

[WotaWaster]

Why would you raise preflop?
QQ87 with 3 diamonds is a pretty average hand at a full ring PLO table in my opinion.
You have 2 playable hold em hands (QQ and 78) along with the 3rd nut flush draw with 1 dead out in your hand.
3 players have already called and none are folding preflop to our raise plus we give them the option of reraising if the pot is big enough and forcing us out. Why build a bigger pot when we like very few flops?

[darkcore]

why raise preflop?

because hero has position! QQxx is definatly in the raising range here.



flop is standard in my book.

[Parlay Slow]

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Why would you raise preflop?
QQ87 with 3 diamonds is a pretty average hand at a full ring PLO table in my opinion.
You have 2 playable hold em hands (QQ and 78) along with the 3rd nut flush draw with 1 dead out in your hand.
3 players have already called and none are folding preflop to our raise plus we give them the option of reraising if the pot is big enough and forcing us out. Why build a bigger pot when we like very few flops?

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agree

[FireStorm]

Hand is fine, once you pot the flop, which you have to do, you obviously can't fold for the remainder when he shoves. This is 44xx or stuff like KQJT often enough to make this fine. We have backdoor diamonds as well.

[Poker monkey]

There's no way you should be raising a junky hand like this pre-flop with 3 limpers at full ring.

Post-flop, hmmm, I can't see you getting away from this if you're beat. You're only losing to pocket Kings so most of the time your hand is good.

The trouble with raising is that you'll fold out a lot of hands that you beat. Everyone else has already folded so if you're ahead, you're only worried about straight draws, for which he needs a fairly specific hand including JT. So there's an argument for just calling on the flop - moreso if you were a lot deeper.

[Kristian]

Thanks for quality feed back everyone.

[holdemsucks]

I agree. At your low stakes, chances are that your opponents will keep on raising and raising (of course some will be playing like it is texas hold 'em). Absolutely, just call. On the flop, I'd actually just call - you don't know what he's got.