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Old 09-17-2007, 08:20 PM
Jim14Qc Jim14Qc is offline
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Default NL200 Confusing 3W pot w/ draws

I probably butchered this hand. Comments? MP is 31/27/4 over 50 hands. No specific read on either player. I felt like my hand was likely good on flop. Draw-heavy board, I feel like I can avoid being bet into again by a better Q (MP?) w/ this minraise, and it charges draws a [censored] to draw to the river. I think this is the only time I've minraised in a while, but I was pretty lost and this felt like an alright play.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $72.85
BB: $241.05
UTG: $200.00
MP: $207.50
Hero (CO): $229.05
BTN: $653.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, Hero calls $7.00, BTN calls $7.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($24) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $16.00</font>, Hero calls $16.00, BTN calls $16.00

Turn: ($72) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $46.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $92.00</font>

Plan is obviously to be in folding mode after this minraise if I get action.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:31 PM
steel108 steel108 is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Confusing 3W pot w/ draws

I don't mind pf every once in awhile, but my default line is to 3B most villans.

Flop is fine, turn is disgusting. What do you accomplish by minraising. There is one legit draw, J-10, that is why you 3 bet pf. BARF
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:32 PM
AggJedi AggJedi is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Confusing 3W pot w/ draws

Deffinatly 3bet a villian this aggressive preflop.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:34 PM
Jim14Qc Jim14Qc is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Confusing 3W pot w/ draws

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I don't mind pf every once in awhile, but my default line is to 3B most villans.

Flop is fine, turn is disgusting. What do you accomplish by minraising. There is one legit draw, J-10, that is why you 3 bet pf. BARF

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What's my line on turn? pre I like to 3bet CO openers more often than MP. I'd say I 3bet 75/25 if he's CO and 50/50 if he's MP. ANyways, obviously turn is spew but what should I do there? Is he repping mega-strenght betting into 3 people here and it's an easy fold? Call and hop that I'm both good now and that QJ or w/e doesn't catch up? :X
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: NL200 Confusing 3W pot w/ draws

are you bluffing or value raising? or cheap showdown?
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:38 PM
AggJedi AggJedi is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Confusing 3W pot w/ draws

You shouldn't be getting to the turn this way, ever.

If you're raising it should be on the flop, not the turn. All you accomplish by this is putting in more money when you're behind and still folding out everything you could have gotten value from on the river.

If you call the flop, call the turn, if you raise the flop and get lead into on the turn it's time to fold. If called and checked to you on the turn i'd like to maybe bet ~1/2 pot on the turn and not put any more money in the pot from that point on.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: NL200 Confusing 3W pot w/ draws

Yeah, raising here is turning your hand into a bluff. He'll never call with worse.

If you call preflop, I definitely like calling down here.
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