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Old 09-17-2007, 04:35 PM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default $27 ATs early vs river push

Hi,

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1480)
MP1 (t1620)
MP2 (t1520)
MP3 (t1655)
CO (t1455)
Hero (t1455)
SB (t1515)
BB (t1300)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t60

Flop: (t195) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t120</font>, BB calls t120

Turn: (t435) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t435) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets t1090 (All-in)</font>, Hero ?

vilain is unknown. 10th hand.

Thought on all streets appreciated.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:00 PM
mortimo mortimo is offline
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Default Re: $27 ATs early vs river push

I think this is a value-bet most of the time, and sometimes a bluff. Hard to say without a read..I might call, but I don`t think it`s profitable
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:07 PM
Pocketbear Pocketbear is offline
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Default Re: $27 ATs early vs river push

Might be a busted FD... If it was TP, I'd might find a call, but as it stands I'm folding.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: $27 ATs early vs river push

Muck. I fold pre. I probably open AJs/AQo here. Flop is good, turn good, riv is a fold.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: $27 ATs early vs river push

I like it, with a fold on the river. I think this is a set more often than a bluff. It's too early to gamble.
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:40 PM
pifhluk pifhluk is offline
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Default Re: $27 ATs early vs river push

I like a second barrell on the turn after he checks to you, he could be calling the flop bet with alot of different hands, overcards small pairs etc. The Q &amp; 2nd bet on the turn may scare him away, if not you still have a fd and an A. As played I fold.
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:46 PM
mortimo mortimo is offline
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Default Re: $27 ATs early vs river push

I wouldn`t fold preflop, but the hand is in the bottom of my range
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:24 PM
utrnbmp3 utrnbmp3 is offline
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Default Re: $27 ATs early vs river push

preflop - i will do the same - the only reason that i can think of for other players suggesting you should fold is to lower your attempt to steal stat overall. however, you are in position, i will raise with a wide range of hands

flop bet is fine.
turn check is the most questionable part for me, however, i will check the same way you did, just because the board paired on the flop and most people will beleive that you didn't hit that low flop.
river - easy fold.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:26 PM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: $27 ATs early vs river push

Preflop I dont mind it, but usually I dont bother for 45 chips.
The flop is an obvious cbet, checking here would be really bad I think.
Checking the turn for pot control is good, unless he floated the flop or has A-5 or something its unlikely you can get a fold here, plus its level 1 and drawing to the free river card is good.
River is a clear fold, you have 1200 chips left at 15-30. If hes bluffing more power to him, if he isnt then be glad you checked the turn as he may have been looking to C/R
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: $27 ATs early vs river push

As played this river kinda sucks really. Villian will be bluffing a certain amount of the time but not enough to make a hero call here without a read. I think your line is fine but I would have played this hand slighlty differently given the texture of that flop.

Pre Flop I will raise.

Flop. I would check behind on this flop with the intention of calling &lt; PSB on the turn or making a delayed c-bet.
<ul type="square">[*]The board has paired so its unlikely to have hit villian.[*]We have a draw to the nut flush so a free card helps us more then it helps villian.[*]We get value from villian who will bluff the turn but may have folded to a c-bet on the flop.[/list]If villian bets turn and river it becomes an clearer fold on the if we do not improve.
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