Turn decision

[nazahl]

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I hate folding this, but this is a flush 99%. What do you guys think of call, fold river UI?

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it works cause ur gettin close to 3 to 1 immediate odds and you'll probably stack him if you pair the board.

[oli1980]

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Also he probably does raise less than flushes on the turn, but that still doesn't mean you can raise here as there is very little you beat here that he calls with. Flat call the turn.

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Please look at the stack size. He has not much left then on the river.

[nazahl]

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Also he probably does raise less than flushes on the turn, but that still doesn't mean you can raise here as there is very little you beat here that he calls with. Flat call the turn.

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Please look at the stack size. He has not much left then on the river.

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he's got half a buyin. that's plently

[Zaghomat]

I don't get that preflop discussion. Id doesn't really matter that much, i I raise 3bb or 3.5BB. Standart at the table is 3.5

[Nick Royale]

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Also he probably does raise less than flushes on the turn, but that still doesn't mean you can raise here as there is very little you beat here that he calls with. Flat call the turn.

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Please look at the stack size. He has not much left then on the river.

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Please try to count some odds. We get 4.3:1 in odds calling the bet if we assume he'll never get away on the river with a flush if we river a boat (thus I've included implied odds). Our odds of hitting our hand is 3.6:1 so that would clearly be +EV. Besides sometimes he might actually check the river with a worse hand, though admittedly he'll rarely have a worse hand here.

Together hitting our hand, getting checked to on the river makes calling the turn an option. If he never gets away from a flush it's as said clearly +ev.

[orange]

a bit more on the flop/turn is std.

[Noam Chomsky]

it's difficult to over-rep middle set but you've accomplished that here nicely!

That being said, this spot really sucks and I can't think of a better line. Folding is probably right but I hate it with every ounce of my being.

I guess you can call and fold the river unimproved but that seems to really suck as well, your not getting odds to fill up and worse yet, you turn your hand somewhat face up as a hand that is strong but not a flush.

The alternative might be to turn your hand into a bluff catcher and call down but really you'd have to put him pretty squarely on JT or stone cold rando bluff. Sucky spot.

[tommygunne]

Non-scare card river: obv get it in
Scare card river: check behind if possible, and fold to a diamond.
I know your turning up 3/1 on the river but if a diamond hits he's only betting better diamonds.
You will most likely fold draws and maybe combos by the turn push, which will most likely river bet even if flush doesn't hit. Therefore you miss out on the river bets from hands you beat, and it also gives yourself the chance to fold diamond rivers if he bets(which he cant do without better that 9d)

[tommygunne]

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Also he probably does raise less than flushes on the turn, but that still doesn't mean you can raise here as there is very little you beat here that he calls with. Flat call the turn.

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Please look at the stack size. He has not much left then on the river.

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Please try to count some odds. We get 4.3:1 in odds calling the bet if we assume he'll never get away on the river with a flush if we river a boat (thus I've included implied odds). Our odds of hitting our hand is 3.6:1 so that would clearly be +EV. Besides sometimes he might actually check the river with a worse hand, though admittedly he'll rarely have a worse hand here.

Together hitting our hand, getting checked to on the river makes calling the turn an option. If he never gets away from a flush it's as said clearly +ev.

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[Nick Royale]

Btw, I usually go "omg omg omg you have a flussssh!!", then push anyway.

I think just calling here is a valid option though. To push the turn we need almost 40% equity. Against a flush we have about 22%, I think this is a flush too often to push.