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Old 09-17-2007, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: top two with lots of action

As played you have to call.

But KJo UTG is ugly as hell.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:27 AM
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Default Re: top two with lots of action

Easy shove.
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Old 09-17-2007, 09:58 AM
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[censored] easy all in. Odds are way too good to fold.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: top two with lots of action

Fold man why raise KJ utg?
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: top two with lots of action

[ QUOTE ]
SB is running 17/12 over 100ish hands seems good
BB no reads just sat down

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($221)
MP ($100)
CO ($299.45)
Button ($58.75)
SB ($97.75)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero folds

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

Seriously, raising with easily dominated hands OOP is well, if not the easiest way to lose money, its damn near close.

I'll probably get blasted for this, but as played, I would have to fold here. Great odds, and great hand, aside as it certainly looks like you're beat with this insane action. Also, with two cards to come, you have only a four out draw if up against a set, and four out redraw if up against a flush draw that hits on the turn. I thought the point of this game was getting it in as a favorite, not moving in with good, but second best hands.

I think designating this an auto shove is inconsistent with good play. I'm not saying it definitely isn't a shove, just that I'm more conservative than most, and would err on the side of caution here.

I mean, don't we have to evaluate the relative value of our hand based on the action? That is not a rhetorical question.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: top two with lots of action

dont hold back, get the stuff in there
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: top two with lots of action

ya i know you guys would love pre. most of the time i fold but i hadnt played a hand in a while and sometimes i raise.

i was thinking SB prob had some type of combo draw and then when BB called i put him on 22 or possibly some idiot with a flush draw but not likely. i figured i was behind but the odds were so good i shoved.
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: top two with lots of action

5:1 with what amounts to 4 outs to the stone nuts and a backdoor flush? Yah call.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: top two with lots of action

i guess i could say the results huh.

SB has 22
BB has JJ
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